Diablo 4 / IV / IIII / Fore / Cope / Seethe

We’ve got a spin-off guild for overflow if lemonparty is full, Tubgirl

Mist said:

I like the overworld. Helltides are cool, spontaneous events are cool, running into other players is cool. You could do some of that with just really clever instancing, but most of it requires an overworld. And the pvp zones are very fun.

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PVP is hit or miss. I went up against another pulverize druid and we just sat there doing the same shit over and over for about a minute until we just walked away from each other. lul Saw a video of two Werewolf Tornado druids going at it for almost twice as long until one of them finally died.

Daidraco said:

PVP is hit or miss. I went up against another pulverize druid and we just sat there doing the same shit over and over for about a minute until we just walked away from each other. lul Saw a video of two Werewolf Tornado druids going at it for almost twice as long until one of them finally died.

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Mur said:

Nah, it's just alot of people who have zero clue what an aRPG is, let alone a Diablo aRPG. They think this thing is an MMO that they should be logging on everyday for the next 5 years with the same character. They can't wrap their brains around the normal aRPG seasons concept, so we see hair pulling and the gnashing of teeth.

Then you get the people like myself, who are pissed because the game is optimized for shit, and many of us can't even play but want to.

Then you have the autistic META clowns who complete everything, hit 100, and have 300+ hours played crying that there is nothing to do.

When season 1 starts the game will be packed again, and the whole process will repeat itself.

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Maybe Blizz shouldn't have pasted on an MMO veneer then?

Jackie Treehorn said:

Second the itemization is just boring. It doesn’t make me want to keep playing. It’s just awful.

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I think I spent more time evaluating the mountains of yellow drops, to see if they were worthy of turning orange, than I did completing the entire season's journey of the last D3 season I played.

Mizake said:

Also it's been posted a million times before but be sure to use Diablo 4 Helltide Event Tracker and Chest Locations when you are doing the Helltide event so you aren't wasting time trying to find the 175 chests.

I've also personally had pretty good luck getting unique items from nightmare dungeons, but it's a small sample size so I can't say definitively whether or not it's a better rate than open world.

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I got 5 uniques in 7 minutes earlier in a tier 35. Three of the bow that is useless to me and two pairs of pentinent both worse rolls than mine.

Palum said:

Maybe Blizz shouldn't have pasted on an MMO veneer then?

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I agree 100%. Painting stripes on a donkey...

Level restrictions on just about all Uniques. No one should be surprised at this. Push yourself to kill higher level enemies. Im not going to bang my head against the wall for that type of shit when the Season, something most of us paid for already, is right around the corner.

Mist said:

I like the overworld. Helltides are cool, spontaneous events are cool, running into other players is cool. You could do some of that with just really clever instancing, but most of it requires an overworld. And the pvp zones are very fun.

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I like the concept of the overworld, I just don't see a fucking point for it with the current content in the game. Even at WT4, most of my running around helltide areas doesn't have other people pop onto my screen often. And world bosses die in 20 seconds(not that I'm complaning), so it's like...

Hopefully they have some cool shit planned and go full MMO-lite with it. Otherwise, it's just such a fucking waste of dev time. So many of those overland zones could've been turned into maps and/or dungeons instead.

mkopec said:

The thing is is what do you add then to the game? More story hour shit? Or end game? I really feel that in ordeer to make everyone happy you have to cater to the hardcore in some way, because if the hardcore are not playing this and streaming it or playing it, then many would consider this a dead game. Besides we all know what happens when they cater to the casuals, no one ends up being happy, see the latest iteration of WOW. Of course you will never satisfy the hardcore with content drops, but still you have to try. Because even if the casuals of today wil never see it, eventually they will and it gives them a sense of purpose in the game.

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Courting the so-called hardcore contingent never involves improving the core gameplay (the primary source of fun), but merely expanding secondary systems, which usually just amounts to additional makework and auxiliary tasks to complete. What a treat that "casuals" can look forward to one day traveling the same long and meandering path without end forged by those degenerates who came before them.

I think you should entirely ignore this bullshit casual/hardcore dichotomy and just focus on creating a novel experience first that doesn't revolve around a slot-machine gameplay loop and implement systems that don't encourage full-blown autistic analysis. You'll still get a lot of streamer attention because they're novelty-seeking attention whores always flitting from one release to the next. Those who stick to a single game long-term aren't even doing you a favor because most of their viewers aren't playing your game to begin with.

It'd also be for the best if more developers just gave up on the fantasy of perpetual renewal via content patches. If your game wasn't designed for natural longevity then it's better for it to die young and leave a good-looking corpse than suffer the fate of EVERY long-running online RPG, which is to invariably grow into an unholy Frankenstein's monster of mismatched pieces that deserves to be put out of our misery.

Of course I don't expect anyone to take this approach so we'll continue to get games like D4.

Mist said:

Yeah, that's what I like about the pvp. It's not trying to be super balanced or tuned or anything. You fight people and shit happens. Some fights are over in seconds, others never end. You might die, drop your seeds, and then you can try again. The stacks are low, the pace is fast, and the zone itself is just a super good farming zone with tons of elite spawns and fast event respawns.

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And it’s also basically unplayable with how laggy it is

i miss demonbuddy for these mundane "choreS" as i call them, but anyway

anyone able to do boost for boost?

or can someone boost me and i will pay you over a weeek with %interest

Lastly if we have some LA enjoyers i have a ton of LA gold, if you wanna boost me ill gladly pay you with that.