Diablo 4 / IV / IIII / Fore / Cope / Seethe

Goatface said:

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mid-season is around march 5th, so they will probably have the chat next tuesday.

would almost bet, the "brief update" is going to be something simple like "hey guys, no longer will you get an item with both fire and cold damage bonuses"

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They had momentum in S2, at least a little bit. Then they dropped the ball on S3 AND the gauntlet bullshit, guarantee they will delay the "itemization update" and when it finally releases it'll be terrible. Calling it now!

They just need to throw in the towel and take S3 as a loss and concentrate on S4. With Last Epoch coming out today and PoE’s next league out next month no one in their right mind should be playing D4 anymore this season.

D3 is basically maintenance mode anyway, did you mean D4?

Mr Creed said:

D3 is basically maintenance mode anyway, did you mean D4?

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I think he meant D4 but they are both in maintenance mode lol.

I think they would have to overhaul pretty much the entire game to get it up to standard.

There are just way too many broken systems and core mechanics that blow my mind.

I'm baffled that they fucked this game up as bad as they did.

Tide27 said:

I think they would have to overhaul pretty much the entire game to get it up to standard.

There are just way too many broken systems and core mechanics that blow my mind.

I'm baffled that they fucked this game up as bad as they did.

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Agreed, I had fun in S2, but in hindsight, I think I just missed playing an ARPG. POE may not be perfect, but I'm having a million times more fun playing it currently.

Yeah I can't see S4 magically fixing this game either. With Last Epoch and POE2 beta soon it's going to be too little too late.

Whatever effort is put into S4 itemization will be McDonald's.

They're focused on the 100 $ expac.

was thinking about this the other day, at this point sales numbers are probably a distant second, as all about the microtransactions
last epoch is pc only, poe is on console but apparently the player base is small. diablo will get a big boost in march when it comes game pass. something like 30m users on pc/console will overshadow any decline last epoch causes.
would almost bet, with it coming to gp with only 18 days before s4, there will be 2 week mini event to make stuff easier with cheaper store items.

GuardianX said:

Competition will fix it.

If PoE2 and LE suck, then D4 is doomed.

Nothing fixes shit better than a healthy dose of "Oh shit layoffs" and they already had one round.

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Deathwing said:

12 million units sold in the first few months, the fastest selling game in Blizzard history. What is competition from the likes of PoE and LE going to do to that?

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Both of you are right.

It'll take a record "season" from POE 2 or LE to really make some waves against D4. Those companies just cant compete with a marketing budget as big as some small countries GDP. So if POE 2's first season or second season comes off and touts a massive success, then we'll likely see some changes in D4.

Derkon said:

Yeah I can't see S4 magically fixing this game either. With Last Epoch and POE2 beta soon it's going to be too little too late.

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They don't have anyone to fix it. S4 itemization update is going to be a giant clusterfuck. These brainiacs can't even suss out damage formulas, I think something major like gear will be a bridge too far for them. People will come back for S4, play it for a few days, and then give up. POE2 beta will be out, and that will be the end of D4.

Daidraco said:

Both of you are right.

It'll take a record "season" from POE 2 or LE to really make some waves against D4. Those companies just cant compete with a marketing budget as big as some small countries GDP. So if POE 2's first season or second season comes off and touts a massive success, then we'll likely see some changes in D4.

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I wouldn't be surprised if MS puts most of Blizzard on the back burner. They already cancelled that game that was in development for 6 years and laid off a lot of people. There's bound to be more coming, too. They don't need these massive teams that have very low productivity. Put all the shit into maintenance mode and outsource or move IP to other studios. Keep a skeleton crew to flip the switches on the ventilator and send the rest of them home without a job.

9,166 people were involved with making D4. Granted, it wasn't a concurrent count, but holy hell...what in flaming fucks did all those people do? If you told me D4 was the product of a studio with NINE people, I would have believed you.

Fucker said:

9,166 people were involved with making D4. Granted, it wasn't a concurrent count, but holy hell...what in flaming fucks did all those people do? If you told me D4 was the product of a studio with NINE people, I would have believed you.

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would bet they got a stock pile of cosmetics in the thousands for each character that will last a decade.

GuardianX said:

The wholesome tech dude that worked for blizzard said it best...


If you haven't seen his channel, it is 100% worth a watch. https://www.youtube.com/@PirateSoftware

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can't find it but someone from bethesda said a couple of years ago they still make money on oblivion's horse armor.


it is $2.49 on xbox, don't think can buy it separate on stream

Deathwing said:

12 million units sold in the first few months, the fastest selling game in Blizzard history. What is competition from the likes of PoE and LE going to do to that?

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I'm gonna say it's obvious that Blizzard wanted a big piece of PoEs MTX pie, and while a box sale gets you a feet in the door, a game without retention won't have great numbers for MTX month after month.