Kithani
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Can you please point me in the direction of these 100s of anecdotes? I am sure it is happening somewhere but when there are ~1,000,000 physicians in this country “100s” isn’t exactly a big number tbh
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Do you know first hand anyone who has been proven to test positive for Covid-19?
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Can you please point me in the direction of these 100s of anecdotes? I am sure it is happening somewhere but when there are ~1,000,000 physicians in this country “100s” isn’t exactly a big number tbh
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When the quarantine first started, my company announced that one of the guys in our philly office (where I work) tested positive, but I wasn't around him before we were all told to start working from home.
My younger kids' math teacher had it around the same time, but she's the one who told us after the fact (not the school, which infuriated us since she was around the kids within the 14 day window).
My wife got a call from her principal (she's a teacher) to tell her when she went into school last week to pack up her classroom, she had been in close contact with a teacher who just tested positive. We've adopted a pretty strict self-quarantine since and will be staying in until it's been 14 days since that contact. Luckily, she just made a BJs run, so we have enough of everything to lay low and wait it out.
I personally know 2 of the 3 people above
My younger kids' math teacher had it around the same time, but she's the one who told us after the fact (not the school, which infuriated us since she was around the kids within the 14 day window).
My wife got a call from her principal (she's a teacher) to tell her when she went into school last week to pack up her classroom, she had been in close contact with a teacher who just tested positive. We've adopted a pretty strict self-quarantine since and will be staying in until it's been 14 days since that contact. Luckily, she just made a BJs run, so we have enough of everything to lay low and wait it out.
I personally know 2 of the 3 people above
Kiroy
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oh ok i'll start finding some of em but since you're claiming that 999,900 doctors would agree with you i'd like you to point me in the direction of their anecdotes as well please
my first citation will be Dr. Birx
"There are other countries that if you had a pre-existing condition and let's say the virus caused you to go to the ICU and then have a heart or kidney problem -- some countries are recording that as a heart issue or a kidney issue and not a COVID-19 death. Right now ... if someone dies with COVID-19 we are counting that as a COVID-19 death."
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I work in a psych hospital/jail, we have had 1 patient test positive so far, and guess how many symptoms he had. If you guessed he had a fever of about 101 for roughly 24 hours and nothing else, you guessed right. mid 20s male, <20 BMI, no cardiovascular issues at all, he's a jogger though which I think is a risk factor for more severity.
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Izo
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Conditions are not stationary, nor binary in severity. Hardly anyone have a complete and uptodate health record. It’s not like we autopsy everyone, drink a glass of chardonnay while having a vote accross the board. If you die with it, it’s recorded as such, died with it. Same as with every other disease, with known comorbidites or not. In any case, the actual mechanism of death is a ‘best educated guess’, a physician assessment, not a fact written in stone. Sheesh.
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I still don't know anyone personally. A work camp in Alberta had a minor outbreak, Kearle Lake I believe, I heard of another, but not sure if it was Alberta. I expected the camps to be decimated by this, especially as it's possibly thousands of people working and living in a relatively small space. Trades/Labour, various types of camp attendants, cooks & related staff, housekeeping, and management types. Especially as many of them just started implementing extra precautions less than 2 months ago.
Personally I think this is another natural order type thing that is supposed to cull the weak. The majority of the cases with serious issues/death I hear/read, seem to be fat/obese, elderly, people with pre existing conditions that already made them vulnerable to a variety of things, and people with plain shitty lifestyles.
Nature trying to save our asses, and we like nah, we worried about our feelings and shit.
Personally I think this is another natural order type thing that is supposed to cull the weak. The majority of the cases with serious issues/death I hear/read, seem to be fat/obese, elderly, people with pre existing conditions that already made them vulnerable to a variety of things, and people with plain shitty lifestyles.
Nature trying to save our asses, and we like nah, we worried about our feelings and shit.
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...which is, obviously, modulated by their exposure to corona, comorbid status, age, when it was caught and acted upon, treatment levels and the strain on the health care system to provide adequate care.
Since you’re an old geezer, chuck, that would put you in the zone, right? But then again, you’d need a social circle that involves people, I donno. +1, -1 and so forth.
Seems pointless to gage on this level imho. Hence why we don’t?
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Colleague of mine, 51. Dude still isn't out of the hospital (but got out of ICU and into a normal "covid" sector).
Tim
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Never had any bad symptoms(popped a low fever for a couple days), but was quarantined before I could return to work at hospital after exposure to several patients without PPE early on in this bullshit. Positive swab test, and now I have a positive antibody test under my belt too, since we started doing those here lately(mostly because with the early tests there was a worry about accuracy).
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Wife's aunt and uncle tested positive. LA. They live
two miles away from us, so yes, I know them. They're late 60's, were totally laid out for a week and a half but never hospitalized.
two miles away from us, so yes, I know them. They're late 60's, were totally laid out for a week and a half but never hospitalized.
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Kithani
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So I don’t read this quote as overdiagnosing covid deaths for profit at all however I guess I can see how you might infer that. I think she was talking about why our country might have higher rates statistically due to different ways of reporting cause of death on death certificates. It’s interesting at times and I HAVE seen that discussed as a potential excuse for China’s numbers being bullshit at the start.
I don’t really know how I can prove something isn’t happening with 900,000 anecdotes talking about it not happening. The way physician reimbursement works (at least for inpatient medicine, I’m not as familiar with nursing homes) there just wouldn’t be any incentive to lie about it by the people in a position to do so.
Edit: A (hypothetical) cause of death
“Cardiac Arrest due to Acute Renal Failure due to Sepsis due to COVID19” in the US vs in China “Cardiac Arrest.” or “Acute Renal Failure.”
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I had a cold a week after COVID started spreading over here in North America.
I'M A VIRUS PLAGUE SURVIVOR ZOMG.
I'M A VIRUS PLAGUE SURVIVOR ZOMG.
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