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So a lot of stuff is left to decide in terms of who is eliminated or not, like it's still fucking close. I think a bunch of the 7wins teams might still be able to lose but I haven't done the exact permutations to figure out in which case it'd happen, however it's quite possible that teams at 6-9 at the end will play tiebreakers to decide which one is eliminated(not sure on the rules though, it might not be the case if it's based on performance between the teams or just their overall score).

It's gonna be a stressful day tomorrow for these teams, especially since a lot of them will barely make it in and then they'll have to play from the lower bracket with a chance of being elminated right away for shitty money.

Also Alliance has to beat Navi and EG if they want a solid chance at this, so it looks pretty grim for them. Beating one only might get them in tiebreakers depending on results from other teams.
Top two (guaranteed winner's bracket and at least 5th/6th place overall) are pretty much wrapped up for EG and VG. The each only need one win with two games remaining to be assured the slots. Even if they lose out, they'll still get a tiebreak.

For top six (guaranteed entrance to the main event and $500k+) 9 wins will be enough, so DK and iG (assuming they close out against Navi) are in and all of the 8 win teams control their own destiny.

For top ten (through to the next round), 8 wins will be enough, so all of the 7 win teams control their own destiny. For the 10th slot, it will either be 6 or 7 wins. LGD, Alliance, Mouz, and Fnatic can all get it by winning out. If any of them do, they will need to tiebreak against each other as well as the 7 win teams that fail to win tomorrow. I'm not sure how they are planning to do the tiebreakers, but considering there will likely be a lot of teams ending at 10, 9, 8, and 7 wins each, there will probably have to be a lot to determine exact placement.

Empire, NAR, and Arrow are all eliminated.
 

Genjiro

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Man, Na'vi need to stop drafting Ogre Magi. As fun as he is to play but they get shit on every time they try it.

Xboct earning that (4) this game. Their entire team looks like absolute dogshit
 

Pyros

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6-9 can go into tiebreaker so empire and NAR can still win. Empire beats Arrow, NAR beats Mouz who themselves beat Liquid. That's 3teams at 6-9. If LGD loses to C9, they're 6-9. If Alliance and Fnatic both win and lose 1game each, they're also at 6-9. That gives you Arrow eliminated and 6teams at 6-9. Meaning all 6 teams would have to go into tiebreakers to figure out which one team doesn't get eliminated.

That requires an extreme setup though, but they still have a chance. After that there's still possibilities for some of the 7wins teams to actually tie for the last spots as you said, which means there's still a lot of teams in this.

As for the top, VG and EG are not safe no. If iG wins their 2games and VG loses to iG and Arrow, then iG and VG would be tied at 10-5. VG dropping a game to Arrow is very unlikely though. Other case is if EG drops their 2games tomorrow, they're 10-5 and DK is also 10-5(they play each other). In theory both these cases could happen at the same time, meaning there would be a 4way tie for the top 2 spots, but the VG one is unlikely as I said.
 

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Haha they've really improved on the panel. Sheever doesn't look near as blown out, wardrobe and makeup doing good.
 

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6-9 can go into tiebreaker so empire and NAR can still win. Empire beats Arrow, NAR beats Mouz who themselves beat Liquid. That's 3teams at 6-9. If LGD loses to C9, they're 6-9. If Alliance and Fnatic both win and lose 1game each, they're also at 6-9. That gives you Arrow eliminated and 6teams at 6-9. Meaning all 6 teams would have to go into tiebreakers to figure out which one team doesn't get eliminated.

That requires an extreme setup though, but they still have a chance. After that there's still possibilities for some of the 7wins teams to actually tie for the last spots as you said, which means there's still a lot of teams in this.

As for the top, VG and EG are not safe no. If iG wins their 2games and VG loses to iG and Arrow, then iG and VG would be tied at 10-5. VG dropping a game to Arrow is very unlikely though. Other case is if EG drops their 2games tomorrow, they're 10-5 and DK is also 10-5(they play each other). In theory both these cases could happen at the same time, meaning there would be a 4way tie for the top 2 spots, but the VG one is unlikely as I said.
There is actually a bizarro world where 5 teams finish 10-5. Though it does involve Alliance and Arrow winning against the current top-2. Realistically VG is guaranteed top2, EG I think is on the fence, they've looked good but obviously DK is always hard and I still can't bring myself to write off Alliance.

Right now I'm sure a number of teams are kicking themselves for losing to arrow/mouz/narvi when their competition didn't.
If C9 wins vs Fnatic and LGD they'd also be 10-5 heh.
 

Luthair

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6-9 can go into tiebreaker so empire and NAR can still win. Empire beats Arrow, NAR beats Mouz who themselves beat Liquid. That's 3teams at 6-9. If LGD loses to C9, they're 6-9. If Alliance and Fnatic both win and lose 1game each, they're also at 6-9. That gives you Arrow eliminated and 6teams at 6-9. Meaning all 6 teams would have to go into tiebreakers to figure out which one team doesn't get eliminated.

That requires an extreme setup though, but they still have a chance. After that there's still possibilities for some of the 7wins teams to actually tie for the last spots as you said, which means there's still a lot of teams in this.

As for the top, VG and EG are not safe no. If iG wins their 2games and VG loses to iG and Arrow, then iG and VG would be tied at 10-5. VG dropping a game to Arrow is very unlikely though. Other case is if EG drops their 2games tomorrow, they're 10-5 and DK is also 10-5(they play each other). In theory both these cases could happen at the same time, meaning there would be a 4way tie for the top 2 spots, but the VG one is unlikely as I said.
There is actually a bizarro world where 5 teams finish 10-5. Though it does involve Alliance and Arrow winning against the current top-2. Realistically VG is guaranteed top2, EG I think is on the fence, they've looked good but obviously DK is always hard and I still can't bring myself to write off Alliance.

Right now I'm sure a number of teams are kicking themselves for losing to arrow/mouz/narvi when their competition didn't.
 

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There is actually a bizarro world where 5 teams finish 10-5. Though it does involve Alliance and Arrow winning against the current top-2. Realistically VG is guaranteed top2, EG I think is on the fence, they've looked good but obviously DK is always hard and I still can't bring myself to write off Alliance.

Right now I'm sure a number of teams are kicking themselves for losing to arrow/mouz/narvi when their competition didn't.
Ah correct forgot to check the 8wins so yeah could be 5. Basically it mostly relies on EG or VG dropping 2games, EG dropping 2 is possible though and if they do they'll have to play against DK again to determine who really is the boss(though if the rules work on a direct record basis, then that'd mean EG would drop to 3 automatically).
 

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This past week my dota2 has been unplayable. While my interent connection seems find outside the game (can stream at 1020, download shit at 1000kb/s), dota is basically a collection of screenshots. Is my router/modem fucked up or how can I fix this?
 

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Man these brackets are mindblowing to me

I was watching (and playing) every single game up to TI3 with a ton in between, but stopped following closely a few months after TI3.

So to me for Vici to come up and be almost undefeated next to Navi, Alliance, Fnatic, EG, Mouz, Liquid etc. with DK at like 3rd spot is just crazy.

Trying to catch on up beginning matches...This prize pool has these players hungry, it's fun to watch for sure.

edit; I just want to clarify that I don't think the teams in top ranking aren't skilled, it's just been so long since I've seen them play/win top spot
 

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I remember Vici dominating at tournaments before TI3, taking games off of DK/IG who at the time were nearly unbeatable. I was surprised when they fell short.

If Alliance doesn't make it in the top 10 I will actually enjoy the playoffs.
 

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It was bo1, upsets are par for the course. The rest of the playoffs will be a bit different story.
 

Luthair

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EE with the shit build and the shit play on Drow making my bitch look bad as usual. First it was with the pathetic blink builds now this. You deserve better Drow
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Also: Qoqjva had the highest GPM EVER on SF at ESL Frankfurt quals. and this last game against Titan to get them into the next round he had the Second highest ever. Guy is just insanely good.
I think its important to remember he's building Drow to maximize the bonus damage for the team as opposed to be the sole carry. That said, I find it puzzling to go butterfly before manta with all the magic damage.

Man, Na'vi need to stop drafting Ogre Magi. As fun as he is to play but they get shit on every time they try it.

Xboct earning that (4) this game. Their entire team looks like absolute dogshit
I don't think (hope!) that Ogre Magi is the issue, just the draft as a whole. The last draft they had 3 cores who needed to get off their spells (chrono, eye of storm, split) against doom, orchid qop and bristleback who you don't really want to waste ultis on.

Ogre has stun, slow, can clear waves/stacks once he hits 6 and can randomly instantly kill supports or even cores. I think his real issue is being a melee support who needs to get relatively close to harass in lane and a ranged friend to deward.
 

Luthair

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Goblak coaching Na`vi, no wonder their picks are a little off kilter haha

Maybe I overlooked this being posted but I found this pretty funny:
 

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Haha, Void being a big meta pick + some of the pros using the Elder Timebreaker has caused it's price to skyrocket. They're going for over $100 on market now.

Too bad I sold my duplicate one a year ago for $45