The whole episode is on Capitalist's Youtube channel, Nehaz really off his rocker. e.g. the argument about needing to be a pro to analyze he uses a bunch of anecdotal examples and calls that as a proof....
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The whole episode is on Capitalist's Youtube channel, Nehaz really off his rocker. e.g. the argument about needing to be a pro to analyze he uses a bunch of anecdotal examples and calls that as a proof....
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I'd wager literally everybody does that in esports, still doesn't make it legal though.
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RIP Big Donger.
My company has similar issues passing over the border into Canada. It is a serious pain in the ass and my employees hate it. It is just fucked up that you can essentially say, "here for pleasure, visiting friends" and you go along your merry way... but if you are honest about the details, they treat you like a criminal and ship you back to where you came from.
My company has similar issues passing over the border into Canada. It is a serious pain in the ass and my employees hate it. It is just fucked up that you can essentially say, "here for pleasure, visiting friends" and you go along your merry way... but if you are honest about the details, they treat you like a criminal and ship you back to where you came from.
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$11,500,000 up for grabs at 11 majors in the next 12 months and $3,400,000 at the minors. Where the fuck is all this money coming from?
So, if Valve puts up 50% for a Major how does the organizer make back the other $500,000 + Arena rental costs? There were so many tournaments last year that when they scanned the crowd there were maybe 100-200 people there. The math doesn't add up.
TI has always been pretty easy to understand, with the compendium sales and such, but everything else seems like they are some sort of ponzi scheme.
So, if Valve puts up 50% for a Major how does the organizer make back the other $500,000 + Arena rental costs? There were so many tournaments last year that when they scanned the crowd there were maybe 100-200 people there. The math doesn't add up.
TI has always been pretty easy to understand, with the compendium sales and such, but everything else seems like they are some sort of ponzi scheme.
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Shit is going to be crazy and I agree with Reddit in that it is going to be amazing for T2/T3 teams (especially now with CIS/SA qualifiers). Some of the big teams who will simply get invited to everything are going to have to sit something out or their players are going to burn the fuck out at 22 tournaments in a 10 month period (first tourney isn't until October). Amazing for the competitive scene overall. Guess we are back to one compendium per year though. Suppose that is good for my wallet....
And now that I think about it, rosters may become more unstable again. We will probably have one major team signup deadline after TI in the Fall, but then due to the constant tournament schedules, there will not be another for the whole year.
And now that I think about it, rosters may become more unstable again. We will probably have one major team signup deadline after TI in the Fall, but then due to the constant tournament schedules, there will not be another for the whole year.
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Right, but he's not asking from that perspective. Regardless of how much Dota rakes in, ESL, Epicenter, BTS, Star Ladder, etc... aren't seeing any of that directly. They're still reliant on ticket sales, sponsors, hand outs from Valve to help cover expenses or prize pool. These 3rd party organization costs aren't being supplemented by compendium sales and treasure chests like the old days. Maybe Valve is open to bringing some of that back, which would help, but there's already enough Immortals and shit going around.
So, yeah, I dunno. Will be interesting to see. And see which esports orgs want to send their team where to min / max their gains. It could potentially make them more stable with more organized LANs to go to throughout the year. More opportunity to make money as a stable team, get sponsorships, grow the organization. If you're rotating members for each Major each month, not sure that'd breed long term viability.
Next year is going to be crazy.
On another topic, I called the hotel to confirm my room and somehow I have two reservations under my name, for the exact same dates, that were made closely together. Only the phone number associated with the 2nd reservation isn't mine. Hotel can't help me because it was made through a booking agent, so they give me Expedia's phone number. Expedia can't help me b/c they say it was made from Trip Advisor. Trip Advisor can't help me because it was made from some company in Boston named smartertravelmedia.com who was closed by the time I jumped through 14 different 1-800 numbers today. I don't have a charge for the 2nd room yet, even though the 1st room was a pre-pay, but they won't tell me if my card was used to secure the reservation. So unless someone with my exact name made a reservation in Seattle at the same hotel for the exact same dates at the exact same time, I'm being frauded somehow. Fucking assholes. All of them.
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what the fuuuuck?
double booked in a hotel during TI... that's gotta be a fucking ungodly amount of $$ you're getting fucked out of. Can you just like.. fraud charge the other one or something?
Also, games like this make you want to kill yourself but the fact that the other team was chill made it a good game... but almost 2 hours? fucking ughhhhhhhhhh
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double booked in a hotel during TI... that's gotta be a fucking ungodly amount of $$ you're getting fucked out of. Can you just like.. fraud charge the other one or something?
Also, games like this make you want to kill yourself but the fact that the other team was chill made it a good game... but almost 2 hours? fucking ughhhhhhhhhh
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Aren't most of esports being ran on venture capital ? Getting 100 000+ eyeballs from around the world has got to be worth something. I'm not saying it's as profitable as the old compendiums or chests, but if anything the social media and marketing craze is only getting bigger.
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One of the craziest things about TI7 is that of the 10 guys that competed for 1st and 2nd last year, none of them are even at the event this year.
Last year, DC simultaneously rode Moo's Timbersaw through the elimination matches and seemed to resent him for it. They booted him after the event and DC imploded on itself. The ironic thing about it is that it opened the door for Mason and Bulba to not only get a legitimate team, but actually have a structure around them to have enough success to qualify for TI... LOL. Bulba and Mason, back at TI, LOL.
If you took the 6 previous TI winning teams, in the form and year that they won, and you created a hypothetical tournament for them to compete against one another... Wings Gaming gets the #1 seed. They were so dominant and feared. Every game they played a different lineup. Techies lineup, sure why not? Pudge lineup, no problem. Jakiro lineup, because nobody else would... they were the all-random pub-stomper team and made it look easy. They were but a comet shooting across the sky and burned up in the atmosphere.
Last year, DC simultaneously rode Moo's Timbersaw through the elimination matches and seemed to resent him for it. They booted him after the event and DC imploded on itself. The ironic thing about it is that it opened the door for Mason and Bulba to not only get a legitimate team, but actually have a structure around them to have enough success to qualify for TI... LOL. Bulba and Mason, back at TI, LOL.
If you took the 6 previous TI winning teams, in the form and year that they won, and you created a hypothetical tournament for them to compete against one another... Wings Gaming gets the #1 seed. They were so dominant and feared. Every game they played a different lineup. Techies lineup, sure why not? Pudge lineup, no problem. Jakiro lineup, because nobody else would... they were the all-random pub-stomper team and made it look easy. They were but a comet shooting across the sky and burned up in the atmosphere.
