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Dandain
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www.twitch.tv/beyondthesummit- links to youtube/othershit is just below the stream if you want to go to youtube or w/e
Sutekh
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Zaphid wants this to turn out just like SC2! Where if you're Asian (korean) you insta win the important shit! BLASPHEMER!
eXarc
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Thx link. Watching the LGD vs DK game 2 from this series. Damn good game.
I love the Asian teams and high level skill as much as the next guy, but you gotta fuckin' represent the West when they deserve it. Credit where credit is due and all that.
edit: Do we have any pro gamers on the board? Genuinely curious because I'm a very competitive gamer and might look into playing tournaments across a couple genres within the next 2 years. I know we have a great amount of very skilled players (speaking DoTA2 but beyond as well) here in this community and I consider myself one of them if I may say that unpretentiously because I feel I've earned it, but I'm talking about genuine E-sport professionals.
I love the Asian teams and high level skill as much as the next guy, but you gotta fuckin' represent the West when they deserve it. Credit where credit is due and all that.
edit: Do we have any pro gamers on the board? Genuinely curious because I'm a very competitive gamer and might look into playing tournaments across a couple genres within the next 2 years. I know we have a great amount of very skilled players (speaking DoTA2 but beyond as well) here in this community and I consider myself one of them if I may say that unpretentiously because I feel I've earned it, but I'm talking about genuine E-sport professionals.
Zaphid
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Well, Nony (BW/SC2) had account on FoH, if that counts, but otherwise nothing AFAIK. Finding decent people to play teamgames competitively seems like really big pain in the ass, I'd go for SC2 and you are at least set for life with mechanics.
Sutekh: I'm really pissed at how WCS EU ro4 looks, Tenks is the one who only wants to see the highest level of play.
I didn't want to get my hopes up in east vs west clashes, because I really can't judge how well a team is playing/drafting until after the game, compared to SC2, where I can tell you a guy is dead well in advance. So I'm pleasantly surprised I can actually cheer for people who speak English and they have reasonable chance to win.
Sutekh
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No love for Dimaga? I didn't know Tyler had an account on FoH? I remember back when he quit SC2 for a bit he was looking for a WoW guild and I sent him a tweet if he was interested in FoH but before joining we stopped raiding. Would explain why he was at least a little interested.
Also in terms of the East v West debate. I really don't feel like they have significantly better teams that the west. I mean just look at the most recent G-1. Team Liquid didn't do well but neither did iG the team that's considered best in the world by a shit load of people AND they lost to Liquid. I wouldn't even consider Liquid as one of the best either, I feel like Dignitas, EG when they're playing well, Na'vi, etc. are all better than Liquid. Not to mention the Chinese teams have to play a really different style than they're used to (same with western teams) when playing against the opposition so it throughs everyone out of wack.
Now the real reason I came to post
Missing a pretty important one:
Pay attention to the call given by teammates.
I've lost count the number of times I've called mid getting top rune and then watching top play aggressive.
Pay attention to the call given by teammates.
I've lost count the number of times I've called mid getting top rune and then watching top play aggressive.
If you're in NA, the best way to get recognized and actually have a shot at joining a team is to playixdl invite. Although I really question your competitive interest when two posts ago you didn't know how to find the G1 stream/vods.
seems like some more hon teams will start playing dota. wonder how long itll take them to start getting competitive
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I have played hon and lol for like 3years combined and it's one thing I don't regret one bit. Sure rarely I would rather have the option because everyone gave up anyway but enemy is busy doing whatever instead of pushing, but that doesn't come close to how many games retards gave up on spamming surrender votes as soon as it was up instead of playing. There's a fuckton of people who go like "gg we lose" at 10mins, but they keep playing, which they probably wouldn't do with a surrender.
They haven't said specifically but that's probably the reason. You can "surrender" if you all log out, the game ends 30secs later as a default loss. There's just no incentive to do it to keep people in the games and maybe try playing. If you just want to leave, you can abandon. It doesn't prevent you from playing, just puts you in the shit queue with all the others griefers, retards and leavers.
Delly
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You guys sound like retards. No one in their right mind would allow FF at any minute in the game and I don't think HoN even allowed that. It was like 20 minutes or something. Edit: Or maybe it was LoL. Or both?
I think concede should be in the game somewhere at the 40-45 minute mark. Not sure about you, but I know there has been times where my team was completely fucked, but their Slardar refused to push and farmed 4, yes FOUR Battle Furies while their team split push and got picked off. Though whenever they grouped we got absolutely dominated.
Concede is a good way to end abuse from teams that just don't push. Yeah it won't get used a lot, but to say not to have it AT ALL? Seriously, get with the program. I don't have 60+ minutes to throw on one game unless its a close game that actually matters.
I think concede should be in the game somewhere at the 40-45 minute mark. Not sure about you, but I know there has been times where my team was completely fucked, but their Slardar refused to push and farmed 4, yes FOUR Battle Furies while their team split push and got picked off. Though whenever they grouped we got absolutely dominated.
Concede is a good way to end abuse from teams that just don't push. Yeah it won't get used a lot, but to say not to have it AT ALL? Seriously, get with the program. I don't have 60+ minutes to throw on one game unless its a close game that actually matters.
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I do think dota2 has a lot of issues but not the lack of surrendering.
The mute system needs to be revised heavily, at the very least you shouldn't be able to report for communication abuse if the person is muted, just add throttling to automated messages if there's not one already, tweak the throttle on pings a bit(need to be able to ping slightly more since apparently it is very restrictive) and that's good.
Second, add a tribunal thing, have all the communication reports go through that shit instead of being automated. It's still not gonna be 100% fair due to people farming tribunal, but it's gonna be better. This will require a large amount of work though, and considering how little ressources they seem to have on dota2 at the moment, I don't really know if it's feasible before next year.
Finally, remove the cap on reports for griefing and such. However add a warning that all these reports will be reviewed(and do review them) and if a report happens to be unwaranted, then the person who reported will be flagged for bad report. 3 flags, temp ban+low prio for a long time, basically a deterrent for report spam shit so it's more manageable to sift through the reports. Maybe keep the cap but increase it, maybe tie it to games played(1report per week, add 1report every 10games played). Potentially also add weighting to reports, people who report rarely but play a lot would get a bigger priority when reviewing reports, as they'll less likely to be people reporting for small shit, which should make it easier to punish the people who need punishing the most.
Edit: I wouldn't mind a 40+mins surrender, most people asking for surrender want a 15-20mins one like lol or hon had(I believe they moved it to 30mins in hon). There is a built-in surrender feature as I said though, if everyone has given up and want to end the game, you just have everyone leave. 30secs later the game ends, no abandon(unless you only have less than 30secs left to reconnect from a previous disconnect)
The mute system needs to be revised heavily, at the very least you shouldn't be able to report for communication abuse if the person is muted, just add throttling to automated messages if there's not one already, tweak the throttle on pings a bit(need to be able to ping slightly more since apparently it is very restrictive) and that's good.
Second, add a tribunal thing, have all the communication reports go through that shit instead of being automated. It's still not gonna be 100% fair due to people farming tribunal, but it's gonna be better. This will require a large amount of work though, and considering how little ressources they seem to have on dota2 at the moment, I don't really know if it's feasible before next year.
Finally, remove the cap on reports for griefing and such. However add a warning that all these reports will be reviewed(and do review them) and if a report happens to be unwaranted, then the person who reported will be flagged for bad report. 3 flags, temp ban+low prio for a long time, basically a deterrent for report spam shit so it's more manageable to sift through the reports. Maybe keep the cap but increase it, maybe tie it to games played(1report per week, add 1report every 10games played). Potentially also add weighting to reports, people who report rarely but play a lot would get a bigger priority when reviewing reports, as they'll less likely to be people reporting for small shit, which should make it easier to punish the people who need punishing the most.
Edit: I wouldn't mind a 40+mins surrender, most people asking for surrender want a 15-20mins one like lol or hon had(I believe they moved it to 30mins in hon). There is a built-in surrender feature as I said though, if everyone has given up and want to end the game, you just have everyone leave. 30secs later the game ends, no abandon(unless you only have less than 30secs left to reconnect from a previous disconnect)