DOTA 2

Ossoi

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Bro ... Naga Siren is a carry. Much much moreso than Mag, all mag needs to be good is arcanes and blink. She needs a fuck ton more.
Not debating that. If I was queuing with people from the FOH channel I would have no problem with letting the Naga get the last hits.

As already stated, this was a solo queue game, all random picks and I didn't know who the guy was that was demanding I let him have the last hits. Why should I gimp my character just because he tells me to?
 

Dandai

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More often than not the people who demand last hits and get carries in solo matches are new, have no idea how to carry, and/or just got their shit pushed in by the hero they're playing in the last game they played - but they know just enough to know that they're a carry and they'reSUPPOSEDto get the last hits!!1!!1!!!11 (noob). I almost always regret playing support in solo queue because people are capable of being so bad at farming or last hitting (30 minutes in, they've died 7 times, have treads and maybe half an item like Shadowblade) and simultaneously so demanding that you acquiesce to them because they picked someone whose success is highly item dependent.

The funny thing about pub games/solo queues is that the other team is also likely to have equally bad players so youcancarry as magnus (even if against a half-decent team that would never be possible).
 

Springbok

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Anyone have anymore beta invites, or am I just going to have to buckle down and buy early access from steam. Kind of getting bored of LOL and want to try something new.
 

Delly

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Anyone have anymore beta invites, or am I just going to have to buckle down and buy early access from steam. Kind of getting bored of LOL and want to try something new.
Everyone has tons of invites, but we need your Steam info to give it to you.
 

eXarc

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What the fuck is with this muting shit?

Anyone who played original WC3 DoTA knows that you got thrown to the fuckin wolves and the chat was constantly crazy and full of shit talking, flaming, and borderline harassment in every noob or terrible players direction but you manned the fuck up and either learned how to swim with the sharks, eat your losses and try to take the best help you could possibly get without ever expecting anyone to be nice about it. Once you broke that very first barrier of understanding game mechanics and that these fucking assholes were actually correct pretty much the entire time, you became a much better player for sticking it out. Thank god I've been playing DoTA for so long I can't even remember how long it's actually been and this shit doesn't truly affect me other than the fact that it pisses me off by taking away the sink or swim feeling and also, not being able to communicate at all in a strategic team game? So you're muted for not communicating properly and you're supposed to learn how to communicate better by not being allowed to communicate at all? What the fuck is that shit?
 

Dandai

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Ya, communication bans are 100% pants-on-head retarded. I don't think I've seen anyone singing their praises, at least not here. The fact that the report system is completely automated makes it even worse.
 

Sulrn

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Ya, communication bans are 100% pants-on-head retarded. I don't think I've seen anyone singing their praises, at least not here. The fact that the report system is completely automated makes it even worse.
Do we know for sure it's completely automated?

Supposedly I've been BS reported multiple times and never had action taken against my account, yet I know for certain 1 or 2 of the people I have reported have had their account locked for 5 days and assuming the rest have been muted/locked.
 

Sutekh

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Do we know for sure it's completely automated?

Supposedly I've been BS reported multiple times and never had action taken against my account, yet I know for certain 1 or 2 of the people I have reported have had their account locked for 5 days and assuming the rest have been muted/locked.
I can absolutely confirm 100% that it's automated. Like I've said like 15 times before, I got a 48 hour chat ban for playing a game on monday where the worst thing I said the raging enemy warlock was "y u hef to be mad" after going 15-3-17 on pudge.
 

Dandain

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I'll just chime in, I think in lower skill brackets where carries get less than half the possible CS even in a purely safe lane. That if you're playing support, that you should not necessarily be trying to last hit every mob, but a few here and there to buy more wards, is good practice. If you never try to CS you'll have trouble when you have to. Also go hard at denies, its like last hitting practice for when you actually play in a more farming prominent role. Stacking and pulling is great practice for map awareness and remembering timings, like rune spawns, stack timings/spawn box shapes. You slowly accumulate the knowledge to improve. Once you get to the point where your carries are >50% last hits in lane then I'd say back off except to fly the courier, or buy a set of sentries rapidly to deward or harass etc but if you make a comment to the carry they usually don't complain.
 

Sutekh

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But they did also mention changes to it.

Multiple people ganging up on you to report you in the same game has no effect on whether or not you are banned. We are looking at patterns of behavior over time only.
If you are currently communication banned, any communication reports you receive in that time period do not contribute towards, nor result in additional ban

Valve's always been a shit company, doesn't surprise me they'd take this route.

The refusal to use actual people and just go with an automated system is fucking retarded. The fact that you can be muted for 160 hours for harmlessly taunting people in chat, when the company put in taunts to the game. Just goes to show how fucking braindead this system actually is.
 

lanludar

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Ok, so I know how to pick between control groups and have it set up in the options now but how do you put specific units in each control group? Is it just ctrl and whatever button you have set for the groups?
 

Cybsled

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For those that remember DOTA1 as a utopia of "stfu and deal with it", you obviously forgot banlist and drop hack. That shit made pubs horrible, esp when some sore loser host would use drophack if you were destroying their team.
 

eXarc

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Ok fair enough, but this shit is stupid regardless of how much I cared for the attitude of the original DoTA. I was just making an additional point based on my experiences of dealing with this shit since the beginning.