DOTA 2

TecKnoe · Dec 22, 2013

i mean if you were dropping down to like 2700, id understand but from what i remember on reths chart, isnt 3800 fairly good?

DeadAgain!?_sl · Dec 22, 2013

I won 2 games in a row yesterday doing MMR - and what should I have done after that?

TURNED THE DAMN GAME OFF, tanked my next 3

nescio_sl · Dec 22, 2013

Sulrn_sl said:
I think I'm officially ready to uninstall and be done with Dota. Tried to see if MM was as bad as I thought it would be and it was -- although I did get a match with TongFu cjz which was interesting. Been on a never ending loss streak (minus the cjz game) since. With the rate of MMR loss, I assume at the start of ranked games I was ~3900/4000ish, ended my 10(1/9) at 3860 and have just continued south.

Bah.

how is a pro player getting thrown in with 3900 MMR players?

Dandain · Dec 22, 2013

Also unless tongfu is in the states, or you queue onto chinese servers I'm quite certain it wouldn't be them anyways. This is the profile of the player, pretty much a troll I'd say.
http://dotabuff.com/players/115664493

Zaphid · Dec 22, 2013

BeyondTheSummit - Twitch
Navi vs Fnatic bo1 in Starladder just started

TecKnoe · Dec 22, 2013

oh no navi

Sulrn · Dec 22, 2013

I couldn't understand which Asian oriented language he was speaking, so very well could have been a troll -- although he did play a very good mid game in comparison to all the other games. // The MMR itself doesn't affect my enjoyment of the game -- its the consecutive game quality drop from the last two major patches. Nor is my rank currently 3800 anymore (it was 3600's, I think, last time I logged in).

Out of the past 20? games, I did not get one single fully English speaking team (or even majority, 3/5). I can play almost any hero/role passingly, and can dominate with quite a few heros, but I'm not able to win games 1v5 or 2v5 when teammates continually feed or give up 7 minutes in and idle in base. That's why I'm done. Not stressed by any means, just haven't had fun the last several times I've logged in by any stretch of the imagination. It's like all the similarly skilled players I was used to solo Q'ing with stopped playing or I'm trapped in a completely separate band of the game now.

Sutekh · Dec 22, 2013

Sulrn_sl said:
I couldn't understand which Asian oriented language he was speaking, so very well could have been a troll -- although he did play a very good mid game in comparison to all the other games. // The MMR itself doesn't affect my enjoyment of the game -- its the consecutive game quality drop from the last two major patches. Nor is my rank currently 3800 anymore (it was 3600's, I think, last time I logged in).

Out of the past 20? games, I did not get one single fully English speaking team (or even majority, 3/5). I can play almost any hero/role passingly, and can dominate with quite a few heros, but I'm not able to win games 1v5 or 2v5 when teammates continually feed or give up 7 minutes in and idle in base. That's why I'm done. Not stressed by any means, just haven't had fun the last several times I've logged in by any stretch of the imagination. It's like all the similarly skilled players I was used to solo Q'ing with stopped playing or I'm trapped in a completely separate band of the game now.

Can I have your items?

Cyni · Dec 22, 2013

Why do you solo queue? Tons o' people in the channel are 3500-4200, and its much more rewarding to play with other people you know. I remember you like to random all the time too.. That could be another issue you're running into.

Lunis · Dec 22, 2013

Sulrn_sl said:
I couldn't understand which Asian oriented language he was speaking, so very well could have been a troll -- although he did play a very good mid game in comparison to all the other games. // The MMR itself doesn't affect my enjoyment of the game -- its the consecutive game quality drop from the last two major patches. Nor is my rank currently 3800 anymore (it was 3600's, I think, last time I logged in).

Out of the past 20? games, I did not get one single fully English speaking team (or even majority, 3/5). I can play almost any hero/role passingly, and can dominate with quite a few heros, but I'm not able to win games 1v5 or 2v5 when teammates continually feed or give up 7 minutes in and idle in base. That's why I'm done. Not stressed by any means, just haven't had fun the last several times I've logged in by any stretch of the imagination. It's like all the similarly skilled players I was used to solo Q'ing with stopped playing or I'm trapped in a completely separate band of the game now.

I think i queued with you once and you went Aghanims on Doom.

Weaponsfree_sl · Dec 22, 2013

Luxer_sl said:
I think i queued with you once and you went Aghanims on Doom.

There's really nothing else to say beyond that.

Elsewise, 3800+ is a fine place to sit. I've seen a few pro players, and a disturbing number of people who know me. Sub 3k? That's where it gets absurd. I think 3800 is still a 95% rating.

Jackie Treehorn · Dec 22, 2013

I've only been playing like 4 months. Just finished up the 10 games today for ranked, 28xx something. Seems like I won most of the games, and I felt like I did decent enough (for me.) I play support 90 percent of the time, so never any big numbers.

TecKnoe · Dec 22, 2013

Jackie Treehorn_sl said:
I've only been playing like 4 months. Just finished up the 10 games today for ranked, 28xx something. Seems like I won most of the games, and I felt like I did decent enough (for me.) I play support 90 percent of the time, so never any big numbers.

does playing support vs hard carry etc matter?

i mean if you play really good support, shouldent it be the same as if you carried hard?

Lunis · Dec 22, 2013

Sulrn · Dec 23, 2013

Sutekh_sl said:
Can I have your items?

Sorry,

If I don't clear out my inventory to prepare for future Steam Sells, I'd bequeath them to Wrathin, Calla, Cloud, Cyni, Dandain, or Teck long before you.

Lunis · Dec 23, 2013

Sulrn_sl said:
Sorry,

If I don't clear out my inventory to prepare for future Steam Sells, I'd bequeath them to Wrathin, Calla, Cloud, Cyni, Dandain, or Teck long before you.

In all seriousness focus on 4-5 heroes you like the most that fill the same role and only play them. Then queue with at least 2-3 ppl in your skill range and you'll very rarely be in the situation you were describing.

Also, never ever ever go Aghanims on Doom.

Intropy · Dec 23, 2013

My rating is about 3750 but I still don't know shit about this game. Like why not EVER going aghs on Doom is so obvious, please enlighten me!

Zaphid · Dec 23, 2013

If you go Aghs as your first item, you are just going to die horribly in teamfights because Doom needs a lot of armor to stay alive. If you get it as 5th/6th slot with Refresher, then you can just disable 2 carries entirely. Of course, anything works in pubs

MaulNutz_sl · Dec 23, 2013

TecKnoe_sl said:
does playing support vs hard carry etc matter?

i mean if you play really good support, shouldent it be the same as if you carried hard?

In pubs you can win games without a good support but its unlikely to win without a good carry.

nu_11 · Dec 23, 2013

Doom needs a lot of farm in general to be useful. Aghs, just not as great as other stuff.

Honestly, I'm not a big fan of the hero.

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