Dune (2020)

etchazz said:

Please introduce me to your coworker, I'd like to throat chop him/her. Anyone who thinks the original movie was even decent doesn't deserve to live.

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I like the Alan Smithee Lynch one, it's definitely not a "good" film quality wise, it was a box office bomb at the time and Lynch disowned it because producers never gave him the infamous "final cut" privilege. The project initially went into full development hell then Lynch spent a lot of money to make his movie with his four hour screenplay before being put aside by the producers wanting to cut their losses and release their "Star Wars for grownups" version, the one we have today. 1984 Dune isn't good as already said, but I like it because of the drama around it. Knowing that, it's really interesting to watch the movie again, seeing how Lynch's vision got crushed by producers intervention.

Would the film have been better with Lynch having the final cut? I wouldn't know, after Elephant Man he definitely wasn't in his environment and didn't know the book material. On the other side, Dino DeLaurentis was a pretty well established producer at the time with films like Serpico, 3 Days Of The Condor, Conan. It's when "Dune" really shines movies wise, there's a lot of failed production material behind the scenes to build a myth on its own. I'm a Villeneuve fan and I want his project to succeed, but there's a lot of stuff that can go wrong during production, as we already know.

Lynch's Dune, as a 1984 "blockbuster" watched today, seems underwhelming and bland. Some production stuff like score and visuals are okay, but the writing is clearly unsatisfactory, some dialogues look very bad and it tried so hard being the "Starwars for grownups" it lacked the "cool" factor Lucas achieved during the same period. I like it for what it is, a development hell production, a conflict between people's visions from a fantastic book material which was supposedly "undoable on film". Villeneuve did Blade Runner 2049, a sequel project noone thought it was doable. That's why I'm excited.

Campbell1oo4 said:

You gay?

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How many pics of her did you have to scan before finding one where she looks surprisingly attractive? Sounds like a fair punishment for your defense of blatant raceswapping for woke points.

I'm sure some of her glamour shots look good, thats what theyre for. I was talking about pics from her casting in Dune

Aldarion said:

How many pics of her did you have to scan before finding one where she looks surprisingly attractive? Sounds like a fair punishment for your defense of blatant raceswapping for woke points.

I'm sure some of her glamour shots look good, thats what theyre for. I was talking about pics from her casting in Dune

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Actor playing Duke Leto is from Guatemala, actress playing Jessica is from Sweden, same as actor playing Vladimir Harkonnen. Silgar actor is from Spain, actress playing Chani's mother is from Britain and the dude playing Yueh is from Taiwan. Director is from Canada. Is that too diverse for you?

Aldarion said:

How many pics of her did you have to scan before finding one where she looks surprisingly attractive? Sounds like a fair punishment for your defense of blatant raceswapping for woke points.

I'm sure some of her glamour shots look good, thats what theyre for. I was talking about pics from her casting in Dune

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My dude. Look up Chani on wikipedia. It's her picture on the article. I did all of 15 seconds of research to acquire my darling woke points.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and all that jazz, but calling this chick fugly is objectively false.

Her not being your dream girl is a very different thing than her being the hideous CHUD calling her fugly would tend to imply. There's a spectrum and she likely falls on it somewhere in the middle. Kind of like the other spectrum some people in this thread likely fall on.

Campbell1oo4 said:

My dude. Look up Chani on wikipedia. It's her picture on the article. I did all of 15 seconds of research to acquire my darling woke points.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and all that jazz, but calling this chick fugly is objectively false.

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Yes, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, so his view of her is absolutely true. My pov is that she can look attractive at times, but also pretty potato. Doesn't matter in the slightest to anyone but myself. So no need for anyone to get bent about it, lol.

I don't know, if I can't PERSONALLY masturbate to EVERY actress in EVERY movie, there's a problem. Also, some of the guys, at least 2-3 guys MINIMUM per movie.

WIsh they passed on Zandaya...

Waiting for the idiots to come out and say this is a rip off of Star Wars and that Cuntleen Kennedy should sue for plagerizism.

Singh'sSpot said:

Waiting for the idiots to come out and say this is a rip off of Star Wars and that Cuntleen Kennedy should sue for plagerizism.

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Star Wars? It's clearly a Stargate rip off.

I always thought Dune was a Command and Conquer ripoff.

Gavinmad said:

I always thought Dune was a Command and Conquer ripoff.

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Yeah those no talent hacks that made that Dune 2 game ripped those guys off.

Edit: *Not sure if this is real or fan made.

Regime said:

“If you thought it might get better from there, think again. In the obvious puff piece from Vanity Fair, they describe Paul Atreides as Greta Thunberg”

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Just more crap spewed from the mouth of libshits.

If anyone in Dune most closely resemble's Greta Thunberg's environmentalism it would be Liet Keynes. If anyone most closely resemble's Greta's pathological disease it would be Piter De Vries.

Paul Atreides is somewhat a failed Kwisatz Haderach and a failed Messiah. He knew what needed to be done but he did not have the courage to do it. He left the Golden Path to be carried out by his son.

Pops said:

He's 5 fucking 9.

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Most actors are short as hell. Its a selection effect as much as anything as the super tall athletic types aren't usually theater geeks. Then you get aberrations like Chrisopher Lee at 6'5" and they look gigantic.

Bondurant said:

Actor playing Duke Leto is from Guatemala, actress playing Jessica is from Sweden, same as actor playing Vladimir Harkonnen. Silgar actor is from Spain, actress playing Chani's mother is from Britain and the dude playing Yueh is from Taiwan. Director is from Canada. Is that too diverse for you?

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Sounds like they cast white people to play white people and an Asian to play an Asian

And then oops, random black chick. I'm sure no one will notice she's a different race than all the other white fremen.

This isn't complicated.

Gavinmad said:

I always thought Dune was a Command and Conquer ripoff.

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Random black chick, that liet's char or chani, liet Could be black due to liet's being an offworlder. Chani, however, Zendeya, is a light black so her being that complexion is fine imo, I mean a race of people living in a desert, NOT being heavily tanned?

Attog said:

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Heh, remember moving every single unit one at the time, w00t. Reloading when the big nuclear missile hit dead center in my base. Good times.