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EQ TLP - Mischief (Free Trade / Random Loot)
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Korzax Stonehammer
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I bought so much cheap shit that will sell well in the bazaar during the first 3 months.
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lol I didnt buy anything just looted bunch of good twink items I can't wait to sell.(get out of my bag)
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Would you prefer another Agnarr-style server that ends at Velious instead with no random loot and some radical concept like truebox again?
Would rather them innovate on an already amazing game with new concepts and ways to play it.
Solo self found? Group solo self found? Like- anything but another non-random loot progression server, ideally.
No one wants to have
Personally I'd like to see these custom ideas in one server (or multiple down the line)
-Major game-altering gimmick like random loot, custom content/custom early-game expansions. Or - extend random loot to quests (excluding epics) and shuffle the NPCs that reward items each server, and extend quest drops to the random loot pool (and take out loot from NPCs accordingly that are quest-only.)
-Another minor gimmick, like beastlords/berserkers enabled day 1, or personal loot.
-Group or Solo Self Found rulesets - think Iron Man or Group Iron Man from RuneScape.
-2 Month expansion cycle (PoP/LDON/LoY considered one 2-month period)
-Bazaar enabled in EC Tunnel with remote purchasing from Rain of Fear enabled
-Autoskill (kick/taunt) enabled at level 10
-Truebox for 2 characters, instead of only 1 per PC. XP bonus when you group with an account that is not linked to your PC historically in any way.
-Extended targets enabled from level 1
They're really easy things that can make the gameplay experience more enjoyable, don't interfere with profits, and are honestly within the realm of possibility
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Kirun
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I'll likely never play another TLP without it. I've seen the light. I'm fine with other cool shit being included, but I just never realized how much random loot opens up EQ and "the meta".
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No, I meant you can't play the server without random loot/free trade enabled. Mischief was (is still) amazing. Need more innovations like that.
I'll likely never play another TLP without it. I've seen the light. I'm fine with other cool shit being included, but I just never realized how much random loot opens up EQ and "the meta".
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Completely agree, and the snails pace in which TLPs play out has a big impact on how quickly EQLive devs can iterate on content.
I think truebox TLPs should:
- Start in Kunark, end after LDoN. All expansions are a 2-month unlock, with the exception of PoP, which combines LoY/LDoN as a single unlock 30 days into PoP.
- Have a 3-month grace period where the server votes to continue on with content or not, sending emails to all accounts that have played previously on the server.
- Use that data to determine if TLPs are worth continuing with after LDoN in terms of cost efficiency and player satisfaction.
- Offer a transfer into some standard server transfer pool for 'claiming' your old characters that lasts for another 3 months, to handle the 'merging old servers' issue (if data shows closing servers is a better option) - characters remaining after that period are deleted and are not recoverable by CSRs.
- Add agents of change to standard servers so players can continue progression at their own pace (MOTM enabled for all legacy instanced zones that use MOTM), freeing up development time for new TLP ideas.
None of this crap about going past GoD with players who don't want it. Live servers exist for that reason, they just don't have the ruleset that lets players play like they would on a TLP.
The game was awful for a majority of legacy players during GoD+ and it's a waste of resources to support a server that's in Prophecy of Ro for more than a week.
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DPG has talked about this and while there aren't any "limitations" to adding this, their concern is over gear (not being enough to outfit those classes). I think their fear is misguided, but that's their "stance" for now.
I'd really like to see 2 month unlocks regardless of level cap increases (and roll PoP/LoY/LDoN into one, 3 month cycle), Luclin start, and removal of TrueBox (I'd be willing to compromise and have it removed on GoD release). Add all that to random/free-trade and I'd play for years.
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DickTrickle
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What do you even care? You couldn't make it past one month of classic because people didn't want to do an ad hoc raid and you're going to be able to deal with all of that?
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Bruuce
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Zaide
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Mischief has def redefined how I look at TLPs, it’s far more fun than previous servers.
After playing Mischief I think my ideal server is as follows:
Mischief Loot (randomized+fv)
Non-Truebox (unlimited boxing on one PC)
No OW raid content
4-6 weeks per expansion
PoP/LoY/LDoN combined as one 6 week era.
Classic Launch
Double flagging for expansions after PoR.
After playing Mischief I think my ideal server is as follows:
Mischief Loot (randomized+fv)
Non-Truebox (unlimited boxing on one PC)
No OW raid content
4-6 weeks per expansion
PoP/LoY/LDoN combined as one 6 week era.
Classic Launch
Double flagging for expansions after PoR.
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Cinge
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They're never gonna do a non-truebox TLP again. Despite what a handful of forum warriors and RMTers say almost nobody wants that shit. If you wanted that shit Rizlona was your last chance and you blew it.
Bruuce
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Id come back to TLPs for this. Its really a must to combine PoP/LoY/LDoN for any future TLP. Half a year of that bullshit is so ridiculous
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SorrowsEnd
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I'm still enjoying Mischief.
I do think the expansion unlocks are way too long. With the amount of loot you get per raid boss I'd be completely fine with 1 month unlocks for everything. My main complaint with Selo was that it was too much raiding with half lockouts but that could be solved with double loot. Mischief basically took care of the loot quantity issue. Now the 2nd month of velious and half the raid force doesn't log on. Keep these expansions short and sweet. Folks can fire up the AoC if they want to keep doing older content.
Push the level 70 content into 1 expansion. Remove true box at level 70.
I do think the expansion unlocks are way too long. With the amount of loot you get per raid boss I'd be completely fine with 1 month unlocks for everything. My main complaint with Selo was that it was too much raiding with half lockouts but that could be solved with double loot. Mischief basically took care of the loot quantity issue. Now the 2nd month of velious and half the raid force doesn't log on. Keep these expansions short and sweet. Folks can fire up the AoC if they want to keep doing older content.
Push the level 70 content into 1 expansion. Remove true box at level 70.
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LachiusTZ
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