EQ2 TLE - Varsoon server

Rael · May 12, 2022

Rucket said:
As for the cities, Freeport & Qeynos are 2 zones now, the neighborhoods will be open but not have any quests in them. Just places to go and get a bit of nostalgia.

Returned to EQ2 recently for a bit and was surprised at how high level (and few and far between) the quests and mobs in the Antonica zone were. Forgot that there actually used to be low-level zones WITHIN Qeynos that you spent a while in. The new player experience is very different now.

Jimbolini · May 12, 2022

As long as they bring back the Curt Schilling boss.

Khalan · May 12, 2022

I did some world first raiding during KOS/DOF/EOF Which I think was Peak Eq2. Tempted to re-install but honestly I'll just get mad and ruin the good memories. Game went to shit and Daybreak is shit.

Muligan · May 12, 2022

I wish I could remember raiding in EQ2. I remember having a good time but I have done so much WoW raiding over the years I'm just out of mental space. Our WoW guild really surprised me and said they wanted to try this. A lot of them missed EQ2 due to WoW but i've always been a sucker for the game. I still think it is incredibly underrated game (at least the KoS - RoK). I'm not saying it's better than what's out there or ever has been in years but they did a lot of good things and in its prime was an a great experience. Unfortunately, it stood toe to toe with a giant for a long time and everyone had their EQ feel and frustration so I get it.

I'm hoping we get a few good months out of it. If nothing else, we'll get to dungeon crawl, tradeskill, and have some fun with housing.

Pharone · May 12, 2022

That's awesome man. Yeah I think that EQ2 got overshadowed greatly by WoW. If anything, SoE should have pushed an advertising campaign hard while people were waiting between expansions on WoW. It could have gotten people to look their way while waiting around with nothing to do.

Pharone · May 12, 2022

And.. don't get me wrong. When EQ2 came out, it was a cluster fuck to the extreme. The game barely ran on good computers, and some of the design decisions were pretty bad. They fixed a lot of that over time, and the game that we have today in EQ2 is a lot better than it initially was when it first released. Now as for the modern expansions... jury is out on that.

Jimbolini · May 12, 2022

/pizza, bro.

We were the first to have /pizza command.

Kirun · May 12, 2022

Pharone said:
If anything, SoE should have pushed an advertising campaign hard while people were waiting between expansions on WoW. It could have gotten people to look their way while waiting around with nothing to do.

It wouldn't have mattered, really. Not only did SoE screw the pooch on their initial handling of the game(Isle of Refuge experience was a mess, having to sub-sub class, then subclass, then class, etc.), but you couldn't even run the fuckin' thing decently on a typical PC until 2010ish.

Listening to Shawn Lord give interviews, it's really no wonder the game released in such a terrible state. It's honestly a feat of triumph they were able to turn it around as much as they did somewhere around the EoF timeframe. By then it was mostly "too late" though.

Pharone · May 12, 2022

Kirun said:
It wouldn't have mattered, really. Not only did SoE screw the pooch on their initial handling of the game(Isle of Refuge experience was a mess, having to sub-sub class, then subclass, then class, etc.), but you couldn't even run the fuckin' thing decently on a typical PC until 2010ish.

Listening to Shawn Lord give interviews, it's really no wonder the game released in such a terrible state. It's honestly a feat of triumph they were able to turn it around as much as they did somewhere around the EoF timeframe. By then it was mostly "too late" though.

True. EoF was a good expansion. I think with out EoF, the game would have gone ahead and died off.

Lunis · May 12, 2022

They definitely made some odd decisions with this game. Not having 'core' abilities on short CD's like most MMO's but instead a ton of similar abilities on longer CD's. If you take the time to get your macros right it ends up being comparable in terms of button pressing. But still, a strange design choice.

Lunis · May 12, 2022

Case in point, here's my assassins macro for just the non-stealth/position attacks.

Animosity · May 12, 2022

God damn, I was gonna roll an assassin. If thats one macro I might just not play this lol.

Arbitrary · May 12, 2022

Lunis said:
Case in point, here's my assassins macro for just the non-stealth/position attacks.

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So what happens when you push that button? Does it go down the line or does it done the next thing in line each time you press it?

Pharone · May 12, 2022

Arbitrary said:
So what happens when you push that button? Does it go down the line or does it done the next thing in line each time you press it?

next thing in line that is ready.

Lunis · May 12, 2022

Animosity said:
God damn, I was gonna roll an assassin. If thats one macro I might just not play this lol.

That's on live which has a lot more levels. And i only have 5 or 6 macros for non-situational abilities, so it's not as bad as you think. As I was saying before, that macro is roughly equivalent to spamming Sinister Strike as a rogue in WoW.. it just looks very inelegant because of how many abilities there are.

Kriptini · May 12, 2022

Lunis said:
They definitely made some odd decisions with this game. Not having 'core' abilities on short CD's like most MMO's but instead a ton of similar abilities on longer CD's. If you take the time to get your macros right it ends up being comparable in terms of button pressing. But still, a strange design choice.

I think it makes sense with the Heroic Opportunity system in mind. Though you can distill any class down to an optimal rotation in a bubble, each of those abilities has a sigil associated with it that advances the group combo system. If you made use of it, you could achieve some very powerful effects through using Heroic Opportunities; there was one that involved Priests and Scouts to create an infinite mana regen loop for your healers that was really useful.

Unfortunately, most HOs were marginal benefits that weren't worth the effort it took to pull them off, so a lot of people just macro their abilities. I prefer having all four hotbars of abilities though, especially on classes like Swash where I may want to prioritize debuff order differently depending on the fight.

RobXIII · May 13, 2022

There was one awesome Heroic Opportunity that was easy to pull off and gave power back. It was quickly nerfed, because they wanted to keep the whole HO system underwhelming.

Flobee · May 19, 2022

Flobee said:
For those looking for class info, ran across this guys videos today. He goes over the basics for each class in the classic era. Fighter vid below, but he also has a priest series on his channel and sounds like he intends to do mage + scout soon.

So this guy just finished his series so I figured I'd post the videos here if anyone is interested. I found them to be a good reference for what each class gets and what roles they fill in classic. I do kind of wish he'd broken tanks out the way he did the others classes but w/e still useful if you're considering what class you want to play