EQN:Landmark Beta Starts March 26th!

In 4 Alpha.

What exactly is "Landmark"?

Minecraft for EQ?

Definitely going to be in the Alpha. If SOE is serious about getting any kind of real feedback from players regarding world-building and design, this could be a step in the right direction for a truly "next-gen" experience.

That and I'm an immersion/locale/fluff whore, so I'm anxious to see what their tools can really do. That and what kind of community would be present.

Quineloe_sl said:

What exactly is "Landmark"?

Minecraft for EQ?

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Yes. And from what I've gathered, it has norealeffect on the game, just landscaping.

Unchained Acolyte_sl said:

If SOE is serious about getting any kind of real feedback from players regarding world-building and design, this could be a step in the right direction for a truly "next-gen" experience.

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God I hope not. If the step in the right direction to get a "next-gen experience" from a big game developer and to get real feedback from players, is to charge $100 to play in Alpha testing, then we are doomed.

For the love of god someone please explain to me why people are giving SOE $60+ to trial this shit? All your toilets are full, and you can't flush any more money down 'em?

Considering it's super minecraft on steroids we kind of already know what we're getting into. It's not like we're completely blindly throwing money at them (albeit some are). If people want to pay to play a buggy game early, so fucking what? What do you even care at all?

About how you spend your money to entertain yourself? I don't think anyone really does care. It's your money, it's your entertainment. Knock yourself out. But if there was any hope of EQ3 potentially, through some act of providence, being any good at all this right here crushes it.

Jackalope did this with his neverwinter mmo. It seems to be becoming a trend. Do you think you're buying your way into the inner circle? for 100 bucks? Do you think that whatever feedback you contribute is going to do anything besides feed the vanity and wallets of the men who sold you the privilege of feedbacking?

It doesn't work like that.

But have fun paying to build art assets for SOE. I'm serious, have fun. It's probably the only fun there will ever be in EQ3.

Do we really need two threads "discussing" the pay for alpha shit?

Anyone found promo codes for buying one of the packs?

OneofOne_sl said:

For the love of god someone please explain to me why people are giving SOE $60+ to trial this shit? All your toilets are full, and you can't flush any more money down 'em?

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Because they have a unique, ground breaking, genre shifting mmo that I would pay $60 at release for just like any other mmo, and it makes no difference to me if I pay for it now 1 year before release or 1 year later when it releases.

It's not like SOE is some unknown company that just sprang up overnight. They have a history of making and releasing MMO's. I'm sure people disagree with how the game direction heads afterwards, or want to armchair developer about how they would have done things better, but I don't expect them to disappear into the night with my money, remove anything we saw in the video previews so far, or decide not to make Everquest 3.

you say that like SOE has a good reputation.

But in general, the same reason people bought into Terraria, Path of exile, Minecraft, gnomoria, or any of the other early access games on steam atm. not to mention other various kickstarters where you just pay up front and get nothing at all, until release.
I know I bought in to Starbound already. we dont even get alpha for that.


That 60 or 100$ price tag is awful high for early access. And as noted, its probably amusing to point out really SOE has less confidence then so many indie guys.

I'll say watching a game evolve is very entertaining in itself. AND constant patching and new additions to a game, keeps it incredibly fresh. Often moreso then a fully complete one.

you know, this video, there is a few things that concern me.

Namely, its not enough minecraft/terraria, and entirely too much just dev tools.

Add/delete tools. AI scripting tools. They explain the game as the same tools they are using to make EQ next. well, we have seen that before. many games have build tools like that. Neverwinter, dragonage, etc. heck even Warcraft/starcraft etc.
These overly complicated campaign creating tools tend to be a bit too confusing, and involved however, and rarely take off to a massive degree.

Its ENTIRELY possible, it is simply a UI issue. I mean, clearly some of those I just mentioned DID have some crazy modding, using these dev provided tools. Dota, etc was created right in game, using these default tools.


on the other hand, buying/selling/trading of materials in a minecraft type world is very interesting.
Materials would need to be consumable I think.
I mean a problem in these games tends to be, its very easy to just get everything you need, then give stuff for free, destroying progression for others.

Troll_sl said:

Yes. And from what I've gathered, it has norealeffect on the game, just landscaping.

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I had the impression this was an entirely different game, disconnected from EQ. Otherwise, you could definitely have an effect on the game by landscaping.