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fanaskin

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Government taught me through it's deeds that spying is the best way to handle the situation.
 
Haast

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Can we bet on how this thread ends? My fantasy football teams suck and this has more interesting possible outcomes.

We need to establish some options, like:
1) Mother finds out daughter is blowing random dudes for drug money
2) Keylogger install leads to identity theft
3) Quinloe locks both of them in his BDSM dungeon

Well, let's just stop there. We all know option 3 is how it ends.
 
Tuco

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a_skeleton_03_sl said:
Too late now for this mother and daughter but we started our kids off by setting up their email and facbook for them. We said we will maintain their passwords for them and will be notified of any changes to them. This isn't so we can snoop all the time but because we care enough and are honest enough that we are up front about it. When you start off like that I don't think it's a bad thing. Once they have spent some time learning the ways of the internet I will no longer monitor but at age 12 in our internet world I think there needs to be some active monitoring. Worked out well enough for us so far.
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I remember being a 12 year old internet user. Back when internet was slow, search engines weren't really that usable and you still had to hunt for information.

And it was still trivial to work around whatever my parents could think of to implement.

In other words: good luck.

Personally my plan is to get a router that gives me logs of all the traffic going in and out. The question then becomes whether or not it's worth finding out that your 11 year old son is googling 'how to masturbate with batman toys' just so you know your 14 year old daughter is googling 'I'm going to be kidnapped and the only way I'll be saved is if my dad checks internet logs' or whatever you think you'd accomplish by spying on your kids.

Really I just think any benefit you'd get from finding out dirt about your kids would be completely offset by them finding out you've been watching their every move.
 
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I dunno, Q. This seems like a bad idea. I know your heart is in the right place, I can see that much is true, but it seems like you might be fucking with the natural order of things.

I mean unless of course the mother thinks that whatever her daughter is getting into could be life threatening.

I don't know anything about keyloggers, but I'm sure someone here can help you. Best of luck to you in this situation. Give us a follow-up if you decide to go through with things and everything turns out okay.
 
Quineloe

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Hoss_sl said:
I'll send you he one I bought if you promise to keep me updated with sordid details. In fact, the one I bought can email logs, so lets just set it up to email logs to a burner account we both have the password to.
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I appreciate your selfless, noble gesture but I'm not going to get involved beyond installing whatever solution it will be and then getting the fuck out. I'm not going to dig through the results.
 
Aaron

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Tuco_sl said:
I remember being a 12 year old internet user. Back when internet was slow, search engines weren't really that usable and you still had to hunt for information.

And it was still trivial to work around whatever my parents could think of to implement.

In other words: good luck.

Personally my plan is to get a router that gives me logs of all the traffic going in and out. The question then becomes whether or not it's worth finding out that your 11 year old son is googling 'how to masturbate with batman toys' just so you know your 14 year old daughter is googling 'I'm going to be kidnapped and the only way I'll be saved is if my dad checks internet logs' or whatever you think you'd accomplish by spying on your kids.

Really I just think any benefit you'd get from finding out dirt about your kids would be completely offset by them finding out you've been watching their every move.
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My father gave me my first e-mail account when I was 11, back before search engines even existed! The e-mail account came with access to a then popular BBS service that he used. He taught me how to connect to the server with our awesomely quick 2400 baud modem, search for good boards, post messages and stuff. After that I was on my own, posting personal details in a "Teen" board with other "teenagers" and shit. Since then I've seen practically everything the Internet has to offer. I still don't know if that was good for me or not. :s But on the positive side it means I have never been fased by what Fedor posts. Or maybe that isn't positive...
 
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Tuco_sl said:
I remember being a 12 year old internet user. Back when internet was slow, search engines weren't really that usable and you still had to hunt for information.

And it was still trivial to work around whatever my parents could think of to implement.

In other words: good luck.

Personally my plan is to get a router that gives me logs of all the traffic going in and out. The question then becomes whether or not it's worth finding out that your 11 year old son is googling 'how to masturbate with batman toys' just so you know your 14 year old daughter is googling 'I'm going to be kidnapped and the only way I'll be saved is if my dad checks internet logs' or whatever you think you'd accomplish by spying on your kids.

Really I just think any benefit you'd get from finding out dirt about your kids would be completely offset by them finding out you've been watching their every move.
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Yeah except you and I were doing that in a generation where your parents didn't understand the internet.

My skills were honed in the trenches. My kids are soft and weak. They can't handle their dad's hacker skills and they believe that.

So far the weird searches I have ignored. The only things I have stopped and talked to them about is my daughter claiming on instagram that she was cutting. I squashed that quick. Turns out she was lying for attention ... girls.

As long as you are open from day one with them that you have the option and ability to see everything they do and start their internet life off well I think you can do a lot of good.
 
Tuco

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a_skeleton_03_sl said:
As long as you are open from day one with them that you have the option and ability to see everything they do and start their internet life off well I think you can do a lot of good.
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Yeah we'll see. If I have kids I'll probably do the same as you. I think our generation will have a lot of headaches when it comes to regulating our kid's internet usage that our parents never did because they were too ignorant. Or maybe they started seeing the shit we got into and decided that talking to us about using condoms was bad enough, talking to us about our latest search in goreporn was completely out of the picture.
 
Falstaff

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Tuco_sl said:
I remember being a 12 year old internet user. Back when internet was slow, search engines weren't really that usable and you still had to hunt for information.

And it was still trivial to work around whatever my parents could think of to implement.

In other words: good luck.

Personally my plan is to get a router that gives me logs of all the traffic going in and out. The question then becomes whether or not it's worth finding out that your 11 year old son is googling 'how to masturbate with batman toys' just so you know your 14 year old daughter is googling 'I'm going to be kidnapped and the only way I'll be saved is if my dad checks internet logs' or whatever you think you'd accomplish by spying on your kids.

Really I just think any benefit you'd get from finding out dirt about your kids would be completely offset by them finding out you've been watching their every move.
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My brother and I spent all night in our early teens trying to search the internet for ways to breed Gold Chocobos.
 
Adebisi

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More like we'll put the fear of computer hacker dad-god into them. Make them understand that if it's on a computer or phone, "I can see it". Which pretty much means their entire social life can be seen by us at anytime.

If my kids can best me at hiding their tracks, then they deserve whatever shenanigans they get into. That, and they'll probably already be on a good track seeing as they've gained all these computer skills.

Maybe our kids will start to go underground with their social networking. They'll tell their friends they're cutting themselves by emulating in-band signalling on the telephone network. Touche, fuckers.
 
Dyvim

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Haast_sl said:
3) Quinloe locks both of them in his PARENTS BDSM dungeon

Well, let's just stop there. We all know option 3 is how it ends.
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FTFY.


Further:
Girl, check.
17 so young but legal, check.
no dad to interfere, check.
low selfesteem, check

Damn Quinloe hook me up with her and we can share priceless stories to this board about me banging your cleaning ladies daughter.
You know deep inside we have to do it.
 
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Adebisi_sl said:
More like we'll put the fear of computer hacker dad-god into them. Make them understand that if it's on a computer or phone, "I can see it". Which pretty much means their entire social life can be seen by us at anytime.

If my kids can best me at hiding their tracks, then they deserve whatever shenanigans they get into. That, and they'll probably already be on a good track seeing as they've gained all these computer skills.

Maybe our kids will start to go underground with their social networking. They'll tell their friends they're cutting themselves by emulating in-band signalling on the telephone network. Touche, fuckers.
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Yeah right now I make sure to amaze them with some skill I don't necessarily possess.

I will randomly spit out some fact from their facebook or email and they will just be amazed.
 
Hoss

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aaron_sl said:
After that I was on my own, posting personal details in a "Teen" board with other "teenagers" and shit.
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Was a different time. I used to have my phone number, real name and address in my sig when I posted on usenet. And we had worse flame wars there than I've seen on this site.

Adebisi_sl said:
More like we'll put the fear of computer hacker dad-god into them. Make them understand that if it's on a computer or phone, "I can see it". Which pretty much means their entire social life can be seen by us at anytime.
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Yeah it only took a few times when she was young to make my girl give up trying to hide shit from me. Reminding her of her password here, pulling the name and location of someone she was talking to on playstation out of thin air.
 
Khane

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Hoss_sl said:
Yeah it only took a few times when she was young to make my girl give up trying to hide shit from me. Reminding her of her password here, pulling the name and location of someone she was talking to on playstation out of thin air.
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I'll never understand why people stay with someone that they trust so little that they feel the need to spy on them. Or is it just that you are so insecure you can't trust anyone?
 
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If she has a smartphone, teenage girls usually leave those with a Facebook app that automatically signs in. Just wait till she sets the phone down then you can see all her stuff.
 
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