Fake People: CGI/AI IPs for hire
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If you haven't seen her, she is fairly impressively pushing forward a virtual person from what a single person at home with a computer can do. You scale that up with a team and a multimillion dollar budget it's hard to image what could be produced.
Chances are we will probably see CGI porn stars before you know it as well.
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Hell we might end up in a world where hiring real actors is a liability and insurance won't cover it.
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Asshat Foler
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Booze ain’t the sharpest crayon in the crayon box.
He’s a bit of a Mike Pence, if you know what I mean.
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Hateyou
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It’s basically a girl who uses a full body Snapchat filter and does some silly shit on a stream.
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Big Phoenix
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Simp kryptonite. They are drawn to her like moths to a flame because of this kind of stuff;
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Edaw
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Mao
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This is sorta interesting from an IP perspective.
Hololive is one of the JP Vtuber agencies, and all of their characters and models are owned by the agency, not the actual voice talent behind them. One of them, KiryuCoco who apparently was the most popular was of mixed American and Japanese heritage and was fluent in both languages. Became quite popular, and was the highest grossing monetarily of the Hololive talent. After some drama with China (apparently she showed her google analytics that listed Taiwan as a country) and more and more restrictions being placed on her she 'retired' (japanese for quit) and went on to resume her own independent Vtuber character.
What makes it interesting though is the original character, KiryuCoco is still owned by Hololive and if they desired could attempt to fill the role with a new voice actress. It is highly unlikely currently with Hololive and how they allow their voice acting talent to infuse the characters with their own personalities, so getting a mimic would be near impossible but in the future it is quite likely a team of people could run a character as a 'role' and have people come and go while the company retained rights to the character. They could build a whole virtual person disconnected from any single real human.
The popularity of vocaloids and vtubers makes me think there is a market and audience for this, and corporations being in full control of their 'talent' and not having to worry about them making stupid tweets, having affairs or accidently shooting their director, not to mention them not becoming famous and then asking for larger and larger paychecks is something they'd highly desire. Actors whole don't exist and are fully in control of their creators.
Its still a ways to go before I think they have a good constant replacement for real actors in live action movies, but I think the corporations would love a chance to have their own stable of stars that dont come with egos, contracts, and drama.
Hololive is one of the JP Vtuber agencies, and all of their characters and models are owned by the agency, not the actual voice talent behind them. One of them, KiryuCoco who apparently was the most popular was of mixed American and Japanese heritage and was fluent in both languages. Became quite popular, and was the highest grossing monetarily of the Hololive talent. After some drama with China (apparently she showed her google analytics that listed Taiwan as a country) and more and more restrictions being placed on her she 'retired' (japanese for quit) and went on to resume her own independent Vtuber character.
What makes it interesting though is the original character, KiryuCoco is still owned by Hololive and if they desired could attempt to fill the role with a new voice actress. It is highly unlikely currently with Hololive and how they allow their voice acting talent to infuse the characters with their own personalities, so getting a mimic would be near impossible but in the future it is quite likely a team of people could run a character as a 'role' and have people come and go while the company retained rights to the character. They could build a whole virtual person disconnected from any single real human.
The popularity of vocaloids and vtubers makes me think there is a market and audience for this, and corporations being in full control of their 'talent' and not having to worry about them making stupid tweets, having affairs or accidently shooting their director, not to mention them not becoming famous and then asking for larger and larger paychecks is something they'd highly desire. Actors whole don't exist and are fully in control of their creators.
Its still a ways to go before I think they have a good constant replacement for real actors in live action movies, but I think the corporations would love a chance to have their own stable of stars that dont come with egos, contracts, and drama.
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Kharzette
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The audio side of it is tricksy if they wanted a seamless transition. While making someone look like someone else is mostly a solved problem, making someone sound like someone else is way further behind.
Many of the hololive girls have very recognizable quirks. Pekora's laugh is unmistakable and I wouldn't be at all surprised if she were often recognized out in the world because of it. (Assuming she ever goes outside). Rushia goes from cute voice to vocalist for cannibal corpse when excited / angry.
I really hope progress is made on audio AI though. I tried using it a few years back, just to clean up audio from a recording of my grandparents made a few years before they passed (there was a huge amount of noise in the background). The best technique at the time was just to convert the audio into image slices and use image AI on them. It didn't work well at all.
With better audio AI maybe a good actress (or even actor!) could probably mimic the quirks and do a decent job. Like an actor portraying a historical figure for instance.
Many of the hololive girls have very recognizable quirks. Pekora's laugh is unmistakable and I wouldn't be at all surprised if she were often recognized out in the world because of it. (Assuming she ever goes outside). Rushia goes from cute voice to vocalist for cannibal corpse when excited / angry.
I really hope progress is made on audio AI though. I tried using it a few years back, just to clean up audio from a recording of my grandparents made a few years before they passed (there was a huge amount of noise in the background). The best technique at the time was just to convert the audio into image slices and use image AI on them. It didn't work well at all.
With better audio AI maybe a good actress (or even actor!) could probably mimic the quirks and do a decent job. Like an actor portraying a historical figure for instance.
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I am still shocked by the popularity of the whole vtuber thing. I think
Chysamere
was a big fan of these things. I feel like I am too much of a boomer for it, everyone I have seen acts almost like a young kid but maybe that's the appeal to some.
Then again there is a lot of things I am too boomer to get.
Chysamere
was a big fan of these things. I feel like I am too much of a boomer for it, everyone I have seen acts almost like a young kid but maybe that's the appeal to some. Then again there is a lot of things I am too boomer to get.
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Slaanesh69
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Not quite......if you are human. You can still sense it. Are you truly human? BOT ALERT!
There is a relatively low-effort Scarlet Johannsen masturbating clip floating around out there that is surprisingly good. It will definitely be porn that overcomes the Uncanny Valley first. I am sure the best men are on the job as we speak.
Slaanesh69
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Happiness really died in your soul a long time ago, didn't it.
I'm sorry, man, I hope you can still hate stroke a load out here and there for relief.
Kharzette
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I don't know much about her, but wasn't she one of the very first? How did the change go over with her fans?
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Yeah, deepfakes are getting stupid. Not to mention if you see Ghostbuster:Afterlife get ready for one that's WELL past the uncanny valley to the point of feeling like they had the real actor film the scenes....
OTOH, You can always just generate new faces until you get one you like, then deepfake map it. Just keep hitting refresh....
OTOH, You can always just generate new faces until you get one you like, then deepfake map it. Just keep hitting refresh....
Big Phoenix
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Seems like theyre lacking the fidelity for viewing on anything other than a tablet. Also seems like its in the uncanny valley lacking natural movement and an off sounding voice.
When you combine avatar overlaid onto someone doing the actual movements, you can get some impressive results. Like with this guy whose spent a lot of time mimicking tom cruise's mannerisms and voice;
Or something far simpler;
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