Final Fantasy VII Remake

Where did everyone pull their white knight hats out for square Enix of all publishers lately? You have a better chance of Bethesda releasing a bug free TES6 than SE not fucking this remake up and anything else that comes after it.

zombiewizardhawk said:

Are there any threads you post in for a reason other than to shit on the game/company/players the thread is about?

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Plenty of them. How about you refute my statement with game launch product evidence that SE isn’t scum for the last 4 years? (The only time they turned a corner was with ff14, where credit is due because at the GDC it sounded like maybe they learned their lesson).

Remember I’m talking development quality, value, and post launch support. Not 3rd party publishing.

Dioblaire said:

Who exactly is white knighting this game? Because some of us are hopeful it turns out great and will lead to other remakes that could be just as good?

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Read the last 10 pages.

And before you lump me into the squenix fanboy club, I haven't bought a FF game outside of 15 (which I really regret) since FF 9. Is it wrong to be hopeful of something?

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Not at all buddy, but you are looking at it the correct way

Ut, we get it. You like to throw shit against the wall in the hopes you are right when you don't like something. And you enjoy shitting on things that others like that you don't. But in all honesty, I hope this turns out just like your prediction in the Doom 2016 thread.

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No, I look at the publisher behind it. It isn't that I may or may not like the game, and in the case of Doom Eternal, the entire game is set up as one long grind to purchase MTX. Now in that thread, the designer may have come out and refuted that, but this is Bethesda who holds the cards here. And believe it or not, I hope I AM wrong on that one. TJT and I even have a forum bet for that.


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I do see some people welcoming the expansion of the universe and there’s nothing wrong with wanting that, even if you think SE is doing it for the wrong reasons. I am not a fan of the expanding and episodic method, at all, but I can understand why they and fans would want it.

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I do not mind episodic content. I don't mind it because I am not going to front load a publisher, but would wait until the entire game launches and buy it all on sale. I also know what I am getting with a solid plan of what is being released within that dollar amount if I * Did * happen to buy it up front. And traditional market is that this is $24.99 to $59.99 for the entirety of the episodic content.

What I am against, is FULL PRICE PER EPISODE episodic content where a game from 1997 is being remade into 3, 4, who the hell knows how many fragments because SE isn't being forthright with their plan. (If they even have one). And then cowering behind this "Oh hey there is over 40 hours of content. 10 of which you will actually give a shit about" and then it's down to 20. (Which is what I think we will see). Now the counter argument to this is "But.... BUT... Uncharted 4 was only 10-14 hours and you paid full price for that!"... Apples to oranges bullshit where this is 1) an RPG. 2) A remake of a game that lasted 60 hours on PS1. 3) Split purposely into segments to take advantage of a fan base. 4) No outlook on the product's future other than "We have plans". 5) Will literally cost over $239 to play through ONE REMAKE OF A GAME THAT IS 23 years old! and that is if they actually sell enough of the first episode to continue. What a joke.

Not to mention if this business model works in the RPG space, just how many publishers do you think are watching - looking to run away, or run towards it, as fast as they can. Imagine paying $59.99 for 5 parts of Skyrim. You don't think Todd Howard would be on this like a fly on shit if it worked without backlash? What does this do for the rest of the industry and it's consumers?

This isn't meant towards anyone on this forum. But it amazes me to this day how Liberalism despises corporations as greedy and intolerant - yet when the liberals control an industry (Gaming) it's ok for everyone to get poked in the ass with a fire stick because they just happen to run the show, and they also happen to be the most anti-consumer of them all.

Yes get milked for your nostalgia shekels.

If you look at the Amazon page it goes out of its way to not tell you its an Episodic game. Just says, "multi-part saga." Really tells you all you need to know.

Pyros said:

It seems you have an axe to grind against the episodic/pricing structure on this based on your most recent post, which is fine, but people have different expectations of "value" when it comes to games and stuff like nostalgia will increase that a fair bit.

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So not knowing "For sure" what is included in this episodic full price game multiplied by 4, it's still a remake of source material of a game from 1997 which is all they will cover. (With possibly additional side questing to pad time spent).

You are comfortable spending $239.96 for a complete FF7 remake? (If they stick to 4 "episodes" and purchasing each episode at full retail price?) Because the alternative is a FF7 remake with 60-70 hours of content done well and true to source material for $59.99 as it is every where else today in the market.

Remember, this is NOT a traditional episodic launch. This isn't selling a game for $59.99 while there are 5 released stages you get throughout the next 6 months to a year. This is $59.99 PER INSTALLMENT. Never done before. With limited information from a company who couldn't develop more than 50 hours of content in 10 years with FF15 yet somehow is going to come at you with 40+ in the first episode of FF7 in 4.