Final Fantasy XIV (Guide in first post)

Noodleface said:

I know people rave about ARR+ through stormblood but shadowbringers msq was enough for me. Felt like too much to be honest

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LOL they should've restricted the MSQ skip services to people who have already finished it and only want it for 2boxing or 2nd characters. Because that's what it was meant for.

khorum said:

LOL they should've restricted the MSQ skip services to people who have already finished it and only want it for 2boxing or 2nd characters. Because that's what it was meant for.

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I wouldn't have played honestly. It's a dumbass design

Is that the one where the Germans try to invade and they use magic to defeat them at the end?

Noodleface said:

I wouldn't have played honestly. It's a dumbass design

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Wellp...wait till you discover the """"endgame"""".

It's a final fantasy game. It's an on-rails narrative visual novel with an MMO crafting sandbox patched to it. You paid to skip the actual GAME.

Let's hope they make the ShB version of Eureka a roguelike crossover with the From's DarkSoul's team and require players to craft their own temporary shelter and hunt for food every 15 minutes. That would actually make it worthwhile for a few years.

khorum said:

Wellp...wait till you discover the """"endgame"""".

It's a final fantasy game. It's an on-rails narrative visual novel with an MMO crafting sandbox patched to it.

Let's hope they make the ShB version of Europa a roguelike crossover with the From's DarkSoul's theme and require people to craft their own temporary shelter and hunt for food every 15 minutes.

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I mean I played ffxi for years. I know how they treat endgame

It was probably worse there

I'm not clueless to your point.

Let me expand on my point.

Let's take utnayan or pharone as an example. If they want to play this game, what incentive do they have in buying shadowbringers right now? NONE. that's a lost box sale because for months they won't even be close to that content.

People say ARR is the worst content in the game. How many people will die out before completing it? Certainly pharone did it, but most won't.

I also take issue that utnayan, for days, could not make a character on ANY SERVER. It's not a good system. Imagine buying a game, paying for a sub and just straight up being unable to create a character ANYWHERE.

I understand what square is doing. They want the cohesive story told. But at some point they need to realize that there's 9 years crammed into this game, and forcing people to slog through months worth of old content is bad design. I don't mind paying $25, but most people will be entirely turned off on that.

I realize end game isn't going to be mythic raiding. I play the game for a myriad of reasons with endgame just being one of them. The final fantasy world is my favorite world of all time. I was a big ffxi player (it was my eq) and I've always wanted to play this game. I just ain't gonna slog through the sewer to do it.

In one of the Q&A's Yoshi himself said that MSQ gating is a problem for new players and the devs will do something about it but just not yet.

ARR isn't that hard a fix. They can easily cut 50-75% of the post-ARR/pre-HW MSQ fluff by either nixing it altogether (Tataru figuring out a job skill shit) or condensing the "pray return to the walking sands" shit so you don't spend hours just going back and forth for minimal exposition. They could easily trim the 100+ post-ARR MSQ slog to 25 or less easily and not really lose much if they did it smartly. HW you could also trim a bit, although not as heavily as ARR.

Melded my miner retainer out to hit the 2083 cap (gets you 30x Dimythrite level 80 venture). You can do it with full crafted set and only using Gather VIs + overmelded IVs (58% for IV overmeld first slot) but it's essentially 4500 yellow scrips of materia per retainer.

I mean, it’s not THAT bad. I think that if they wanted to fix anything regarding ARR - they should just rewrite bits of the story that really don’t make any sense.
They have a room in waking sands that never gets used. Instead of writing out the option to port there - they should have just put a minor crystal in that room that you can attune to. If they did that, I believe they could cut off a good hour if not more from just that short run between the crystal and waking sands.
If they went through the quests and consolidated them, they would cut down on multiple hours of slog. I went through the primals in ARR because I try to finish every blue quest. Only to find out that they are required In the post ARR story quests to move further. I ended up just running them again with my g/f so she could knock them out. You have to kill this primal, then run back to waking sands, then kill another primal, run back, and then to kill another primal. Why in God’s name can’t the player at least have all three quests separately? Much less all of the primals originating from there.
There are a bunch of things they can do to lessen the impact of travel and uninteresting quests involving the MSQ in ARR. They just need to do it and stop putting it off for an ARR revamp or whatever they have planned. Regardless of that fact, I still enjoyed playing through ARR. it could have just been..... better.

They need to just rework the msq so that it finishes when you hit 50, hw when you hit 60, etc. It should be organic. It isn't right now

I mean, I'm one of the minority who didn't think the ARR story was bad, or dragged on. I thoroughly enjoyed it, but for all the points being made, you gotta realize - sub numbers are increasing constantly. New people are showing up, and clearly sticking around at the rate the numbers have been increasing each month. It clearly ain't THAT bad.

Noodleface said:

They need to just rework the msq so that it finishes when you hit 50, hw when you hit 60, etc. It should be organic. It isn't right now

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That doesn't work without a massive retooling and nerfing of XP rates or other bonuses (road to 70, etc). I dont really think that is the main problem anyways. The issue is you can't start new xpac content until you finish all the previous xpac MSQ content, so you're a level 55 doing 50 stuff. Consolidating the post-ARR/pre-HW stuff would fix that without fucking around with XP/etc.

Did Eden last minute tonight. Nothing too crazy but the second tanks in every fight basically just DPSed. Only on Titan did we wipe because the 2nd tank was sleeping (I can eat two debuffs with Holmgang, but after that...)

Only 434 ilvl, excited to try savage

Or taking a bit more time you port to the zone crystal and rent a ride there. Then you can watch your some netflix or read something while being taken there.