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Sylas

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She died to save a child in her care, who actually survives the expansion and shows signs of recovery. Then she's the second boss if the first dungeon (which is excellent).

The way you talk about this in terms of cunts and emos make it look like there's something psychologically wrong with you.
Him living is even worse writing than i expected from this game, and i certainly didnt expect much. They pigeonholed in a ridiculous "sacrifice" scene and then realized later the only way to justify how completely illogical that was, was to have him live? Can't wait to see the retarded excuses to justify that. Lemme guess, time travel? Froze him in stasis? He was literally on deaths door when i left him weeks ago in game.

And yeah i know i already killed her. Allison had a little weep fest about it after.
 
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Cybsled

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then just immediately turn her back to it and then try and have a conversation with a dude who is so close to turning himself he can't even speak?

You act like she was busting into a 5 minute long speech. She cuts the wing off, quickly tells the child they have to run (she literally just says "we have to run", 4 fucking words), and gets stabbed almost immediately. She had her back turned for like a second, if that, while trying to get the child to move.
 

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You act like she was busting into a 5 minute long speech. She cuts the wing off, quickly tells the child they have to run (she literally just says "we have to run", 4 fucking words), and gets stabbed almost immediately. She had her back turned for like a second, if that, while trying to get the child to move.

It takes him 5+ minutes to think up a rant about a 5 second line of dialogue to post here. So it feels like a full conversation after. Cut the guy some slack...
 
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Chris

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Him living is even worse writing than i expected from this game, and i certainly didnt expect much. They pigeonholed in a ridiculous "sacrifice" scene and then realized later the only way to justify how completely illogical that was, was to have him live? Can't wait to see the retarded excuses to justify that. Lemme guess, time travel? Froze him in stasis? He was literally on deaths door when i left him weeks ago in game.

And yeah i know i already killed her. Allison had a little weep fest about it after.
You... save the world? Is that bad writing now?
 
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Sylas

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You... save the world? Is that bad writing now?
I save the world an hour after i arrive? Cus that's how long he had to live. If that's the case then yes, that is shitty writing. Oddly enough the msq has me returning to my room and sleeping several times. The whole "Shadowbringers" aspect of me driving back the light so that natural day/night cycles can return kinda implies that multiple days have passed already since this scene, and im barely started the expansion. Going to go out on a limb here and state that weeks if not months pass during these expansions. Im marching hundreds of miles, large armies are marching. Shits happening, this doesnt all take less than a day.

I went and bought the kid his favorite fresh fruit for him to enjoy as he dies. Whats the shelf life on fresh fruit again? And why did i have to buy it then if he had months left to live?

The kid has been dead, he died before i made it to the next quest giver. If they decide he's still alive, then yeah, shitty writing.
 

Chris

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I save the world an hour after i arrive? Cus that's how long he had to live. If that's the case then yes, that is shitty writing. Oddly enough the msq has me returning to my room and sleeping several times. The whole "Shadowbringers" aspect of me driving back the light so that natural day/night cycles can return kinda implies that multiple days have passed already since this scene, and im barely started the expansion. Going to go out on a limb here and state that weeks if not months pass during these expansions. Im marching hundreds of miles, large armies are marching. Shits happening, this doesnt all take less than a day.

I went and bought the kid his favorite fresh fruit for him to enjoy as he dies. Whats the shelf life on fresh fruit again? And why did i have to buy it then if he had months left to live?

The kid has been dead, he died before i made it to the next quest giver. If they decide he's still alive, then yeah, shitty writing.
That's a lot of autism for something that at worst is an NPC giving a bad estimate, how do you enjoy anything?
 

Chysamere

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I save the world an hour after i arrive? Cus that's how long he had to live. If that's the case then yes, that is shitty writing. Oddly enough the msq has me returning to my room and sleeping several times. The whole "Shadowbringers" aspect of me driving back the light so that natural day/night cycles can return kinda implies that multiple days have passed already since this scene, and im barely started the expansion. Going to go out on a limb here and state that weeks if not months pass during these expansions. Im marching hundreds of miles, large armies are marching. Shits happening, this doesnt all take less than a day.

I went and bought the kid his favorite fresh fruit for him to enjoy as he dies. Whats the shelf life on fresh fruit again? And why did i have to buy it then if he had months left to live?

The kid has been dead, he died before i made it to the next quest giver. If they decide he's still alive, then yeah, shitty writing.

Missing things as usual

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After you bought the fruit and brought it back they discussed it and decided to give Halric a little more time.
 
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Sylas

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False. A little more time as in a few hours. Not months.

The mental gymnastics you guys are doing to justify shitty writing is hilarious, cant just admit its bad.

All these stories start off bad, this is no different than arr or hw or sb. Shitty writing til they find the plot. This one is particularly agregious but its nothing out of the norm overall.

The funny thing is alisons story line is at least salvageable, compared to alpinos. Hers is just shitty, hamfisted writing to hit a particular story beat they were looking for. It can easily be salvaged with a simple rewrite.

Erase her whole history about her mom being infected and her being there for years dealing with the infected, instead insert the following dialogue:

alison: "protagonist, let me introduce you to nurse whatshername, she just got her last week so ive taken her under my wing and showed her the ropes. The three patients you met earlier are her first. And poor timmy over there, he will be the first one she'll have to prepare the final meal for. Ive tried to caution her about treating the infected with compassion and dignity without getting too attached, but i dont know if ive gotten through to her. She sent you to get his final meal because i dont think she is ready...to let go. I'm not sure she is cut out for this life."

And then congrats, this story beat now makes sense. Her ill-advised "rescue" attempt, her lack of knowledge on the adversary, even alisons emotional arc and decision to abandon the hospice all fits now.

The way it is written there is no emotional response because you are too busy rolling your eyes about how poorly its written for you to connect to the story. Its the same way you don't feel guilty when your wife is upset at
You for something you did in her dream last night. You probably end up apologizing for
What dream you did but you don't register guilt for it.

If you felt any kind of emotional reaction to the sceneas written, then you need to cut back on the soy lattes and check your water bottles for bpa.
 
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Chysamere

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False. A little more time as in a few hours. Not months.

Incorrect. They put the plan on hold unless he showed signs of further degeneration.

Perhaps he will get lucky and someone will take action that changes the dominance of the light aether that is changing him. Aether tends to equilibrium over time after all.
 
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Sylas

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Incorrect. They put the plan on hold unless he showed signs of further degeneration.

Perhaps he will get lucky and someone will take action that changes the dominance of the light aether that is changing him. Aether tends to equilibrium over time after all.
Incorrect. Completely catatonic boy had only an hour or so left. Too bad for him he died weeks ago, days before anyone was able to kill a warden and even begin to change the aether of this world. It'll be months before anyone could rebalance the aether to the point he could of possibly recovered.

He used what little free will he had left to sacrifice himself to spare his caregivers the pain of watching him die. he went out into the desert to die, like the aging, dying eskimos who head out "to hunt" knowing they'll never return. Unfortunately, veteran caregiver whos been dealing with these infected for years, who's gone through this dozens if not hundreds of times, who watched her own mother go through this, she somehow decided out of the blue and completely uncharacteristically that this boys life was the last straw, she was going to make a difference this time, no more she said, as she yeeted herself hilariously into the jaws of death and became the very thing she was trying to prevent.

Why would she do this now, you ask? Because the protagonist is here and we need this story beat to happen. Nevermind its completely illogical and contradictory to the story's own narrative for the npc they just introduced. You gotta have a story or action beat every 3 pages or you'll lose the audience. Thats a hollywood guarantee.

Look, i get it, most of us were science/math types. Some history buffs. Very few poets / writers. I certainly am not. I don't expect you to be able to articulate precisely what fails here or why exactly the writing is bad, but its kinda like porn. You may not be able to define it, but you know it when you see it.

Literature may have not been you best subject back in school, but I kinda assumed after 20+ years of arguing over the internet you guys would of picked up a bit of critical thinking here and there. Seems I was wrong.
 
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Chysamere

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Incorrect. Completely catatonic boy had only an hour or so left. Too bad for him he died weeks ago, days before anyone was able to kill a warden and even begin to change the aether of this world. It'll be months before anyone could rebalance the aether to the point he could of possibly recovered.

He used what little free will he had left to sacrifice himself to spare his caregivers the pain of watching him die. he went out into the desert to die, like the aging, dying eskimos who head out "to hunt" knowing they'll never return. Unfortunately, veteran caregiver whos been dealing with these infected for years, who's gone through this dozens if not hundreds of times, who watched her own mother go through this, she somehow decided out of the blue and completely uncharacteristically that this boys life was the last straw, she was going to make a difference this time, no more she said, as she yeeted herself hilariously into the jaws of death and became the very thing she was trying to prevent.

Why would she do this now, you ask? Because the protagonist is here and we need this story beat to happen. Nevermind its completely illogical and contradictory to the story's own narrative for the npc they just introduced. You gotta have a story or action beat every 3 pages or you'll lose the audience. Thats a hollywood guarantee.

Look, i get it, most of us were science/math types. Some history buffs. Very few poets / writers. I certainly am not. I don't expect you to be able to articulate precisely what fails here or why exactly the writing is bad, but its kinda like porn. You may not be able to define it, but you know it when you see it.

Literature may have not been you best subject back in school, but I kinda assumed after 20+ years of arguing over the internet you guys would of picked up a bit of critical thinking here and there. Seems I was wrong.

Your head canon doesn't trump what happens in the actual story. If he was going to be dead in an hour, he would be dead. Yet he is not, and as you have suspected, his condition improves.

You have simply misunderstood the situation, as you so commonly do, by regularly missing key points. It really undermines your critique when you are factually wrong so regularly.
 
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Neranja

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The mental gymnastics you guys are doing to justify shitty writing is hilarious
Have you answered my question yet about your favorite 10 books that you consider "good writing?"

If not, maybe we could get Amod Amod to threadban you and move your blog posts into a separate thread, because at this point you are:
  • proven wrong repeatedly
  • write walls of text, but ignore most of the things people reply to you
  • cherrypick some things ("I only skim replies") for cheap trolling
This is the lowest form of trolling: Even when (by your own admission) you don't enjoy the game, you still keep playing it.
 
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joz123

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Sylas needs his own rickshaw thread like Foler has. Us mere mortals don't have the mental capacity to endure his inane ramblings.
 
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Folanlron

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Mute button is the coolest feature ever.....

PS go play WoW or some shitty Korean MMO that really doesn't have any kind of story, quit bitching about it. Cause you're fucking wrong you little fuck ant.
 
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Sylas

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rofl, proven wrong when? cite some examples please. Any time i've been mistaken or misremembered something I posted stating so. I can give you plenty of examples where people arguing with me were proven wrong, like how auto-facing works, etc.
write walls of text, yes, guilty
skipped over story spoilers when asking for specific game mechanics, yep.

I must of missed your question about books. Like series? I dont read too many fantasy series tbh, I've read ASOIAF series, wheel of time series (til like book 11 iirc? i quit way past the time he was just dragging it out and then he died), some of the older AD&D fantasy series like Time of Troubles series. beyond typical medieval fantasy other types of fantasy i've read some Anne Rice (witching hour? iirc) but not much.

Feel free to go cry to amod to censor ppl with opinions you don't agree with because anything other than an echo chamber triggers you, or you can accept my challenge I made 6 pages ago.
 
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Denamian

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Have you answered my question yet about your favorite 10 books that you consider "good writing?"

If not, maybe we could get Amod Amod to threadban you and move your blog posts into a separate thread, because at this point you are:
  • proven wrong repeatedly
  • write walls of text, but ignore most of the things people reply to you
  • cherrypick some things ("I only skim replies") for cheap trolling
This is the lowest form of trolling: Even when (by your own admission) you don't enjoy the game, you still keep playing it.

Awkward The Simpsons GIF
 
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Argarth

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Thread nazis need to STFU.
Sylas' long winded ramblings are the only interesting thing happening in this thread.
/carry on