gshurik
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Damn man, that's cool I had already added it to my bookmarks.
I fucking hate making google sheets honestly, I find they (or used to at least) lack a ton of features that I normally use with Excel.
Final Fantasy XIV (Guide in first post)
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Damn man, that's cool I had already added it to my bookmarks.
I fucking hate making google sheets honestly, I find they (or used to at least) lack a ton of features that I normally use with Excel.
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The worst part is how some people are already whining that there's only like 15skills on that screen so they somehow are removing 15skills from every class or DNC will have half the skills of other classes, because it's not possible these bars are entirely unrelated shit or not filled or any other number of reasons.
Anyway excited about tomorrow, want to see them dances.
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gshurik
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I hadn't thought about that at all until I read someone complaining on reddit, and now it's in my head that they might have done that. I hate negative speculation sometimes. There's enough reasons to be pissed off, don't make shit up.
dvoraen
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I seem to recall a few people losing their mind because ability X wasn't on a hotbar during the 4.0 PLL (and even I was unsure), then it turned out that no, it just simply wasn't on the hotbar; they hadn't removed it.
gshurik
I started on that spreadsheet somewhere in December or January, so I've been tinkering with it for about 3-4 months. Finished up this version in late March, iirc.
gshurik
I started on that spreadsheet somewhere in December or January, so I've been tinkering with it for about 3-4 months. Finished up this version in late March, iirc.
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Confirmed(and cleaned up) job icons and potd sprites
There's no fucking way they cut THAT MANY abilities. Shit would just entirely ruin the combat. They'd have to cut several combos, oGCDs and cooldowns on every single class to fit, and even then it'd be a tight fit with all the necessary skill for normal raiding stuff(healers have 2 single target heals, one aoe heal, one instant heal, a dispel and rez for example or tanks having one strong cooldown, one medium cooldown, one weaker cooldown and provoke and such).
It's just much more likely that the bars were preset stuff from gamepad usage to keep track of cooldowns, or other random shit or the guy is low lvl or in the process of setting up bars or is a retard(remember this is a general press event, not a FFXIV fanboy only event, a bunch of these ppl have never played XIV or only played ARR up to 35 in the free trial a week before getting flown in for their job).
I do expect some pretty decent cuts though, I think they'll definitely aim for 32 abilities or so, and for some classes that means 5-8skills being cut(with an additional 2skills from new expansion especially). But there's a lot of bloat with role action skills ever since they removed the limitations on them, and I see most of them just getting removed.
There's no fucking way they cut THAT MANY abilities. Shit would just entirely ruin the combat. They'd have to cut several combos, oGCDs and cooldowns on every single class to fit, and even then it'd be a tight fit with all the necessary skill for normal raiding stuff(healers have 2 single target heals, one aoe heal, one instant heal, a dispel and rez for example or tanks having one strong cooldown, one medium cooldown, one weaker cooldown and provoke and such).
It's just much more likely that the bars were preset stuff from gamepad usage to keep track of cooldowns, or other random shit or the guy is low lvl or in the process of setting up bars or is a retard(remember this is a general press event, not a FFXIV fanboy only event, a bunch of these ppl have never played XIV or only played ARR up to 35 in the free trial a week before getting flown in for their job).
I do expect some pretty decent cuts though, I think they'll definitely aim for 32 abilities or so, and for some classes that means 5-8skills being cut(with an additional 2skills from new expansion especially). But there's a lot of bloat with role action skills ever since they removed the limitations on them, and I see most of them just getting removed.
Malkav
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I seem to recall a few people losing their mind because ability X wasn't on a hotbar during the 4.0 PLL (and even I was unsure), then it turned out that no, it just simply wasn't on the hotbar; they hadn't removed it.
You are gonna have to change a whole tab if they announce the removal of role actions and their replacement by job specific actions.
dvoraen
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Lucky for me the design allows for easy sheet removal. I thought about doing that already, since the leaks are consistent about role actions going away and the writing's on the wall since the "you get all ten" patch to them, but I was going to wait until it was official before I murdered the Role sheet and grayed out its ToC link.You are gonna have to change a whole tab if they announce the removal of role actions and their replacement by job specific actions.
I'll just be putting the job-specific "role" stuff in the 5.0 column for each individual sheet so it won't really be a big change. Might have to add a few rows to the 4.5 vs. 5.0 sheets for the 5.0 columns, but all in all a massive overhaul is not really needed.
If they really are removing the concept of Role actions and baking most of them back into the individual job(s), I'm rather curious what they'll spread between them (e.g. Swiftcast, Lucid Dreaming and Largesse), and what they'll restrict to individual jobs (Eye for an Eye going to SCH only, perhaps). For instance, I could totally see Stoneskin returning to Conjurer as "Surecast".
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Malkav
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Or they could consolidate combos like they do in PVP currently. There you have a bunch of hotkeys freed up. It's not like you would ever want to do combo out of order. So instead of 1-2-3 (or 1-2-4 if your combo branches off), you could do 1-1-1 (or 1-1-2 for the branch).
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Yoshida specifically said he doesn't want to do that for PvE though. Even if they did, it only removes 3-4buttons from most classes and only removes stuff for non casters obviously.
sleevedraw
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Malkav
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Folanlron
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They keep changing things literally til the last day that the game servers need the newly built codebase, I bet tons more tweaks have already happened vs what they announced today, these "lists" are not final in anyway.