Gaming and general purpose monitors

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Neranja said:
Gigabyte M27Q? It's flat.
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Hmm, hadn't seen that one since it's apparently only being sold by newegg at the moment. $360 which is a pretty good price though. Downside there is newegg pixel policy means you are screwed if there's any dead pixels. I'm also not entirely clear on how a panel which only claims 8-bit color support is HDR Ready... maybe DisplayHDR certification for PC is less strict, but I don't see how that could work with a HDR10 input from a console.
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man half that read like another language and reminds me just how little know know about display specs. HDR was all I knew pretty much, haha.
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1440p just means 2560x1440 resolution. 120Hz is the max Xbox supports for (up to) 120 fps in certain games like Gears 5. Mostly you'll find monitors in the 144-170Hz range for PC, since that's what people consider ideal nowadays. You'll obviously need a PC that can actually play games at 144+ fps though, which means pretty high end hardware if you expect to do it in new games like, say, Cyberpunk 2077. Freesync is just adaptive sync, which helps a lot when your PC drops fps a bit below the refresh rate of the monitor. Instead of getting tearing or stuttering, the monitor will drop the refresh rate to equal the fps and keep everything perfectly smooth. I wouldn't even consider a panel without Freesync (Premium or 2) after having used it on my last couple. Nits (or cd/m^2) is just how bright the display can get. 400 nits is the minimum for 'true' HDR, and anything below 300 nits is pretty dim unless you play your games in a completely dark room. Even then, any panel that's only like 250 nits is probably shit for a bunch of other reasons too.

[Just be aware that Freesync is AMD tech, and if you use a Nvidia GPU you have to read the fine print and/or read some reviews to make sure that any Freesync panel you buy is also fully G-Sync compatible.]
 
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Vorph said:
Hmm, hadn't seen that one since it's apparently only being sold by newegg at the moment. $360 which is a pretty good price though. Downside there is newegg pixel policy means you are screwed if there's any dead pixels. I'm also not entirely clear on how a panel which only claims 8-bit color support is HDR Ready... maybe DisplayHDR certification for PC is less strict, but I don't see how that could work with a HDR10 input from a console.

1440p just means 2560x1440 resolution. 120Hz is the max Xbox supports for (up to) 120 fps in certainly games like Gears 5. Mostly you'll find monitors in the 144-170Hz range for PC, since that's what people consider ideal nowadays. You'll obviously need a PC that can actually play games at 144+ fps though, which means pretty high end hardware if you expect to do it in new games like, say, Cyberpunk 2077. Freesync is just adaptive sync, which helps a lot when your PC drops fps a bit below the refresh rate of the monitor. Instead of getting tearing or stuttering, the monitor will drop the refresh rate to equal the fps and keep everything perfectly smooth. I wouldn't even consider a panel without Freesync (Premium or 2) after having used it on my last couple. Nits is just how bright the display can get. 400 nits is the minimum for 'true' HDR, and anything below 300 nits is pretty dim unless you play your games in a completely dark room. Even then, any panel that's only like 250 nits is probably shit for a bunch of other reasons too.

[Just be aware that Freesync is AMD tech, and if you use a Nvidia GPU you have to read the fine print and/or read some reviews to make sure that any Freesync panel you buy is also fully G-Sync compatible.]
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All my stuff is AMD and low end high tier, I’ll upgrade to letters stuff after the first of the year.
Thanks for explaining all that, much appreciated.
 
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Vorph said:
Hmm, hadn't seen that one since it's apparently only being sold by newegg at the moment.
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Sorry, I can't talk about US prices and availability, I live in Germany.

Vorph said:
I'm also not entirely clear on how a panel which only claims 8-bit color support is HDR Ready
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Whoops, I didn't check that. But I assume it's like FRC in the old days, where you get two more bits by flickering between states.

Gigabyte has nicer monitors like the FI27Q, and a cheaper one like the G27Q. If you want a cheap monitor to tide you over or as a second display there isn't that much at the lower end of the market. Maybe the Acer Nitro VG1 VG271 Pbmiipx.
 
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Why Your HDR Monitor is (Probably) Not HDR at All - and Why DisplayHDR 400 Needs to Go - TFTCentral

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Beyond that if you see the VESA badges being used, we would recommend ignoring the HDR 400 badge altogether and would much rather it didn’t exist. At least in its current form. A VESA DisplayHDR 400 certified display isn’t offering you any real HDR benefit at all.
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Yeah, from what I'm seeing now I guess the obvious conclusion is that if you want HDR you'd better just stick with a TV. Even a cheap-ish TV can have local dimming and peak brightness that you won't find unless you spend 2-3x the price for a monitor that's a quarter of the size.
 
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Unfortunately there are very few TVs that do 4k@120hz 4:4:4 with adaptive sync. And many of the ones that do, don't do them in the variants under 55inches.
 
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Tarrant said:
How’s this for what it offers and for the money? I was playing with it today and it seemed nice, I was a fan of how adjustable it was for height and angle.

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It's good if you want a 32 inch curved monitor.

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/dell-2...ible-monitor-with-hdr/6421624.p?skuId=6421624 if you want something similar that's 27 inches and flat.

Amazon product ASIN B07YGZL8XF also great if you can get it at the $379 list price.

That Samsung is pretty old panel tech now.
 
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