GoT - Is Over, Post Your Drogon Sightings
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Jozu
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lolwut.
Like previously stated, a lot of the lore talks of a physical and mental connection, with the rider influencing the beast directly. A dragon the size of Balerion would be almost oblivious to your presence and you would be better suited just letting it trample and burn shit while you watch from a safe distance. For fucks sake that thing could provide transportation to every man, woman and child in the Riverlands nevermind a single "rider".
edit: (the Balerion in that stupid graph, 70m etc)
Valorath
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Talos
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Everybody knows dragons don't shit. They just fart a lot which is actually what makes them fly.
TJT
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I think the idea here is about how the North is far removed from the rest of Westeros. Its huge and wild. I think of it like Alaska. Would a dude from Dallas be keenly aware of the naughty kinks of the Mayor of Anchorage? Or even care. In this case, Littlefinger and Roose were both WELL aware of the importance of Sansa. Roose knew that he needed her to keep the North he also knew that she was a huge security risk to even have (in the show I mean FArya was totally cool with the Crown in the book. But in this case Cersei wants Sansa dead). Roose spends quite a bit of time even on the show explaining to Ramsay the subtleties of maintaining relationships in the North, in addition to how tenuous their hold on Winterfel really is. Ramsay just ignores all of this because he's crazy as fuck and thinks fear trumps all. Even with Theon's betrayal staring him in the face.
Littlefinger cares for Sansa in his own way, but because of the implications she creates he never would have dreamed that the heir to House Bolton could be that fucking stupid. Roose is cautious, thus Ramsayshouldalso be cautious. Even if we assume Littlefinger is aware of the rumors about Ramsay and even assumes they are true. It would still make some sense that he would figure the importance of Sansa to their budding dynasty is like their top fucking priority and they wouldn't do anything to jeopardize it.
Umber knows of Ramsay's predations because he lives next door and the guy doesn't exactly hide it.
Chukzombi
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id like to think baelish on the show was at least as savvy as varys, he would know what ramsay did to theon and that the boltons and the freys broke the ancient hospitality law by killing sansa's mom and bro at his robb's wedding. ya know his old love, cat. he gave her daughter over to these bastards and didnt bat an eye, he has no right to be pissed now. i know the vale army come to winterfell because it was in the trailer, still its too little too late. never should have done this.
Thats retarded. Littlefinger trades in knowledge. He'd know the number of pubic hairs on Ramsey's ballsack. If they try to write it like "err durr Littlefinger screwed up!" thats almost insulting to the entire character they've built up.
Ambiturner
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They've built him up to be a master schemer, but not infallible and incapable of ever making a mistake
TJT
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No, I don't think it was a mistake. If we look at what Littlefinger objectively seeks (Lordship) then using Sansa was a perfect ploy to get him leverage over Cersei. Who is completely predictable. Roose was a fool taking Sansa, even though he needed her, because it put him at odds with the Crown and he didn't even consider what Littlefinger would do with this information.
Littlefinger mentions outright that poor Robin will die and he becomes Lord of the Vale, he is already Lord of Harrenhall and Lord Protector of the Vale. Just by giving Sansa to House Bolton he was able to get Cersei to name him Warden of the North.
Is he upset that Sansa is being mistreated? Sure. Did he expect that she would be? No. He's not infallible... just much smarter than most of the other characters in the series.
Littlefinger mentions outright that poor Robin will die and he becomes Lord of the Vale, he is already Lord of Harrenhall and Lord Protector of the Vale. Just by giving Sansa to House Bolton he was able to get Cersei to name him Warden of the North.
Is he upset that Sansa is being mistreated? Sure. Did he expect that she would be? No. He's not infallible... just much smarter than most of the other characters in the series.
TJT
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Well in the books he had bought several of the key members of the Houses of The Vale. He also completely dominated them economically. They were legally bound to serve him based on some ploy he put in place/he owned their shit.
Him having no banners to call on is entirely the reason why nobody ever suspects him of anything.
Him having no banners to call on is entirely the reason why nobody ever suspects him of anything.
Gavinmad
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Jait
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They are. There was a few holdouts, but he fast talked them.
I assume Sweetfuckingrobin will die in the next book sealing the deal. I thought Littlefinger wanted to marry Sansa to Robin in the books to create the new uber-Stark/Arryn alliance then take his place after he offs Robin so he can fuck Sansa and rule.
Chukzombi
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That's what I thought too. Why keep him the fuck around if that's not the plan?
This isn't a mistake like he thought something would play out one way and it played out differently. Giving Sansa to Ramsey and then going "Oh he's a bad guy? Who knew???" is completely out of his character.