GoT - Is Over, Post Your Drogon Sightings

  • Guest, it's time once again for the massively important and exciting FoH Asshat Tournament!



    Go here and give us your nominations!
    Who's been the biggest Asshat in the last year? Give us your worst ones!
Merrith

Merrith

Golden Baronet of the Realm
18,734
7,328
Chukzombi said:
What? There are 3 barratheon kings spanning what looks like 20+ years. Cersei is a barratheon queen. No matter what she changed it to after her coronation. It's under barratheon rule right now.
Click to expand...

I guess in Chuk land this is true. The brats weren't actually Baratheon, nor is Cersei ruling as one, really. At least so far as claiming that Gendry has as much right to the crown as Jon (Aegon). The Lannisters have controlled the crown since Robert died, that's why they were against Renly and Stannis.
 
  • 1Garbage
  • 1Worf
Reactions: 1 users
Chukzombi

Chukzombi

Millie's Staff Member
73,796
215,612
Merrith said:
I guess in Chuk land this is true. The brats weren't actually Baratheon, nor is Cersei ruling as one, really. At least so far as claiming that Gendry has as much right to the crown as Jon (Aegon). The Lannisters have controlled the crown since Robert died, that's why they were against Renly and Stannis.
Click to expand...
christ, just stop. its been officially Barratheon rule through 3 kings. Cersei chose her maiden name.
gameofthrones.fandom.com

Robert Baratheon

King Robert I Baratheon was the seventeenth ruler of the Seven Kingdoms and the first king of the Baratheon dynasty. Robert, a great warrior and charismatic man in his youth, took the throne through conquest in the war known as Robert's Rebellion, which began when the Prince of Dragonstone...
gameofthrones.fandom.com gameofthrones.fandom.com
gameofthrones.fandom.com

Joffrey Baratheon

King Joffrey I Baratheon was the eighteenth king to rule from the Iron Throne and the second king of the Baratheon dynasty. Though believed by most to be the eldest son of King Robert Baratheon and Queen Cersei Lannister, Joffrey is actually a bastard born from Cersei's incestuous relationship...
gameofthrones.fandom.com gameofthrones.fandom.com
gameofthrones.fandom.com

Tommen Baratheon

King Tommen I Baratheon was the nineteenth ruler of the Seven Kingdoms, the third king of the Baratheon dynasty, and the younger brother of Joffrey and Myrcella Baratheon. Though legally the son of the late King Robert Baratheon and Queen Cersei Lannister, his true father is Ser Jaime Lannister...
gameofthrones.fandom.com gameofthrones.fandom.com
 
  • 3Like
  • 1Garbage
Reactions: 3 users
Ravishing

Ravishing

Uninspiring Title
<Bronze Donator>
8,456
3,577
Isn't the point that Blood > Name?

Maiden name would be Lannister btw.
 
  • 1Picard
Reactions: 1 user
Gavinmad

Gavinmad

Mr. Poopybutthole
44,202
53,288
This is a really dumb and pointless argument about a poorly defined grey area.

So basically it's perfect for this thread.
 
  • 8Like
  • 1Solidarity
  • 1Garbage
Reactions: 10 users
Merrith

Merrith

Golden Baronet of the Realm
18,734
7,328
Chukzombi said:
christ, just stop. its been officially Barratheon rule through 3 kings. Cersei chose her maiden name.
gameofthrones.fandom.com

Robert Baratheon

King Robert I Baratheon was the seventeenth ruler of the Seven Kingdoms and the first king of the Baratheon dynasty. Robert, a great warrior and charismatic man in his youth, took the throne through conquest in the war known as Robert's Rebellion, which began when the Prince of Dragonstone...
gameofthrones.fandom.com gameofthrones.fandom.com
gameofthrones.fandom.com

Joffrey Baratheon

King Joffrey I Baratheon was the eighteenth king to rule from the Iron Throne and the second king of the Baratheon dynasty. Though believed by most to be the eldest son of King Robert Baratheon and Queen Cersei Lannister, Joffrey is actually a bastard born from Cersei's incestuous relationship...
gameofthrones.fandom.com gameofthrones.fandom.com
gameofthrones.fandom.com

Tommen Baratheon

King Tommen I Baratheon was the nineteenth ruler of the Seven Kingdoms, the third king of the Baratheon dynasty, and the younger brother of Joffrey and Myrcella Baratheon. Though legally the son of the late King Robert Baratheon and Queen Cersei Lannister, his true father is Ser Jaime Lannister...
gameofthrones.fandom.com gameofthrones.fandom.com
Click to expand...

Did you really link their profiles from got fandom? They aren't Robert's kids. Jon is a Targ, Joffrey and Tommen were Lannisters. Facts.

Also we'll just gloss over the idea that even maybe a full 20 years we'll call "decades" by the barest technical definition and equate that to "as much of a right" compared to Jon's Targ family who ruled for centuries (and yes, more centuries than decades of combined Baratheon and Lannister rule).

Jfc Chuk...
 
  • 3Like
  • 1Garbage
Reactions: 3 users
Breakdown

Breakdown

Gunnar Durden
6,039
8,384
Merrith said:
I guess in Chuk land this is true. The brats weren't actually Baratheon, nor is Cersei ruling as one, really. At least so far as claiming that Gendry has as much right to the crown as Jon (Aegon). The Lannisters have controlled the crown since Robert died, that's why they were against Renly and Stannis.
Click to expand...

The Lannisters supported the "Proper" heir to the throne, The Kings first born son. His brothers tried to usurp the throne by declaring Joffrey Illegitimate.

We know this as viewers. You realize the people of Flea bottom dont get HBO. Joffreys parentage is a rumor amongst a few high born. Nothing more despite its truth.

3 Baratheon Kings. Joffrey and Tommen both used "Of House Baratheon" as their titles.
 
  • 6Like
  • 1Garbage
Reactions: 6 users
Merrith

Merrith

Golden Baronet of the Realm
18,734
7,328
Gavinmad said:
This is a really dumb and pointless argument about a poorly defined grey area.

So basically it's perfect for this thread.
Click to expand...

You're absolutely right. If I thought he was troling instead of just being dumb it'd be easier to ignore. I feel Chuk would work best in this thread if he just sat in a wheelchair like Bran all the time but instead of being the 3 Eyed Raven he'd just watch his weird lore vids.
 
  • 1Like
  • 1Garbage
Reactions: 1 users
Chukzombi

Chukzombi

Millie's Staff Member
73,796
215,612
Merrith said:
Did you really link their profiles from got fandom? They aren't Robert's kids. Jon is a Targ, Joffrey and Tommen were Lannisters. Facts.

Also we'll just gloss over the idea that even maybe a full 20 years we'll call "decades" by the barest technical definition and equate that to "as much of a right" compared to Jon's Targ family who ruled for centuries (and yes, more centuries than decades of combined Baratheon and Lannister rule).

Jfc Chuk...
Click to expand...
ahh you're just trolling. NM, thought you were stupid enough to believe that Joffrey and Tommen were Lannister Kings.
 
  • 1Picard
  • 1Salty
  • 1Garbage
Reactions: 2 users
Breakdown

Breakdown

Gunnar Durden
6,039
8,384
Not to mention I believe in the books and show, Cersi never took the Baratheon name but is "Cersei Lannister of House Baratheon.
 
  • 1Like
  • 1Garbage
Reactions: 1 users
Chukzombi

Chukzombi

Millie's Staff Member
73,796
215,612
hey guys, look at what this fan site says

www.hbo.com

Joffrey Baratheon played by Jack Gleeson on Game of Thrones - Official Website for the HBO Series | HBO.com

Information, interviews, photos and more for Joffrey Baratheon played by Jack Gleeson on the HBO original program Game of Thrones - Official Website for the HBO Series
www.hbo.com www.hbo.com
www.hbo.com

Tommen Baratheon played by Dean-Charles Chapman on Game of Thrones - Official Website for the HBO Series | HBO.com

Information, interviews, photos and more for Tommen Baratheon played by Dean-Charles Chapman on the HBO original program Game of Thrones - Official Website for the HBO Series
www.hbo.com www.hbo.com
damn fanbois at HBO. when will they acknowledge those Lannister kings?
 
  • 3Like
  • 2Garbage
  • 1Worf
Reactions: 5 users
Alex

Alex

Still a Music Elitist
14,757
7,596
I mean...Chuk is right given that almost every single person in Westeros believes they were Baratheons. The truth be damned.
 
  • 3Like
  • 1Garbage
Reactions: 3 users
Merrith

Merrith

Golden Baronet of the Realm
18,734
7,328
Breakdown said:
The Lannisters supported the "Proper" heir to the throne, The Kings first born son. His brothers tried to usurp the throne by declaring Joffrey Illegitimate.

We know this as viewers. You realize the people of Flea bottom dont get HBO. Joffreys parentage is a rumor amongst a few high born. Nothing more despite its truth.

3 Baratheon Kings. Joffrey and Tommen both used "Of House Baratheon" as their titles.
Click to expand...

Just a rumor amongst the high born? It's like people didn't even watch the show.



Not to mention there was a scene prior to this when it was just Tyrion out amongst the people and some beggar was yelling about Joffrey being Cersei and Jaime's son.

Despite their titles it was the Lannister army and family fighting for and controlling the crown with Tyrion followed by Tywin as Hand of the King.
 
  • 1Garbage
Reactions: 1 user
Merrith

Merrith

Golden Baronet of the Realm
18,734
7,328
Alex said:
I mean...Chuk is right given that almost every single person in Westeros believes they were Baratheons. The truth be damned.
Click to expand...

I'm not sure we know what everyone in KL or abroad actually BELIEVES regarding their parentage...but the idea the rumor about it was confined to only a few high born is demonstrably false. An actual rumor only a couple people know currently is Jon's parentage, which is basically himself, Sam, and Bran? And maybe Gilly (she may have heard enough to conclude he was a Sand and not a Snow, but maybe not that he's not a bastard and is a legit Targ)?
 
  • 1Like
Reactions: 1 user
Nester

Nester

Vyemm Raider
4,987
3,185
There has been 3 Baratheon kings, but they thier rule has not spanned decades, it was 15-18 years tops.
 
  • 1Garbage
Reactions: 1 user
Chukzombi

Chukzombi

Millie's Staff Member
73,796
215,612
Nester said:
There has been 3 Baratheon kings, but they thier rule has not spanned decades, it was 15-18 years tops.
Click to expand...
Robert ruled for 17 years. Joff and Tommen ruled at least 3 years. those kids aged up more than 3 years, even in the books.
 
  • 1Garbage
Reactions: 1 user
Gavinmad

Gavinmad

Mr. Poopybutthole
44,202
53,288
Yeah I hate to admit it but Chuk is technically correct on the decades thing, even if 'decades' normally implies more than just two.
 
  • 1Like
  • 1Worf
Reactions: 1 users
Merrith

Merrith

Golden Baronet of the Realm
18,734
7,328
Chukzombi said:
Robert ruled for 17 years. Joff and Tommen ruled at least 3 years. those kids aged up more than 3 years, even in the books.
Click to expand...

In the books Robert only ruled for 15 years, not sure how much the kids aged in the books. For whatever reason on the show they had Robert say 17 years.
 
  • 1Garbage
Reactions: 1 user
Chukzombi

Chukzombi

Millie's Staff Member
73,796
215,612
Gavinmad said:
Yeah I hate to admit it but Chuk is technically correct on the decades thing, even if 'decades' normally implies more than just two.
Click to expand...
some people get even more nitpicky and call anything over ten years as "decades". Barratheons have been ruling for legit decades.
 
  • 1Solidarity
  • 1Garbage
Reactions: 1 users
Xarpolis

Xarpolis

Life's a Dream
15,135
17,216
She's not living a full blown lie. She's still the mother of dragons and is immune to heat. John gets burned, so she's got that on him.
 
  • 1Garbage
Reactions: 1 user
You must log in or register to reply here.