GoT - Is Over, Post Your Drogon Sightings
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Guest, it's time once again for the massively important and exciting FoH Asshat Tournament!
Go here and give us your nominations!Who's been the biggest Asshat in the last year? Give us your worst ones!
Zaara
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One: Drogo didn't rape Dany. That was an HBO-ism* as much as the Jaime/Cersei sept scene, Roz appearances/subplot, and Littlefinger's stupid monologue with the whores going at it in the background.
*There's a pretty strict formula that HBO has followed (and will continue to follow), and its based on demographics. Dany is the character that most women viewers identify with and are rooting for- and as a result, they have to white-wash certain book aspects to make it appeal to the greatest number of viewers. Daario's original casting (and this season's, to a certain extent) are a reflection of that. There would -not- be a subset of women shipping Dany/Daario if he was a blue-bearded, gold-toothed homomancer. If they didn't go with 'dashing debonair' Ken-doll Daario, Jorah would be the most popular romantic interest of Dany--and that's obviously not the direction they want to go in if they want to appeal to the lowest common denominator. It's the same general principle of sex appeal that they used to hash out Oberyn's TV persona and the reason why Dany/Drogo mostly consisted of sun-and-stars porn (not much feminine appeal to the concept of getting 1-shot impregnated in view of the entire khalasar.)
khalid
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Well, she definitely didn't have a choice in the wedding, but the sex the first night was consensual.
However, she was raped nightly for weeks after that.
Zaara
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Intrinsic
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Yeah but on the whole "timeline of things" Essos is still very much in the slaves are our main workforce and providers to the super elite section. Westeros has been through hundreds (?) of years of rebellion, tyrants, and shifting politics. We've had some pretty spectacular descriptions of what Dragonstone, Harrenhal was it?, all the castles of the Knight's Watch, etc... all looked like in the glory days. Before dragons torched that shit and the slaves were freed to become serfs and die of dysentery and rickets. Dany is going through her emancipation proclamation so give it a while and those pyramids and everything will look like Egypt.
edit: Ah Lenas and whats his name covered that in the thread. I don't really read that one much and have been busy all day and not caught up.
Noble Savage
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Just re-watched the episode and Charles Dance deserves the Emmy for best actor this season, dude is amazing.
Shonuff
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As said before, there was nothing kind in that lecture, just manipulation. He realizes that the kid is still pliable, and he's telling him to listen to his counsel, now and forever.
Faltigoth
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Tuco
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Yeah, Tywin is beyond kind. He sees Tommen as the future of the Lannister legacy. And there's nothing evil or wrong in that, and his actions to make him a wise king would be hard to not classify as good even if they are only to further the strength of his own house.
Tuco
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Khane
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I guess you don't know how manipulation works. Pretend to be kind, pretend to be your victim's strongest supporter and manipulate them into doing your bidding. He gets to have power over the king, without having to be the target of all scrutiny that comes with being the king. He gets to rule from the shadows. The man is brilliant, cunning and calculating. I don't think he capable of actually, genuine kindness.
We don't know that yet. Joff was a terrible king. He never had Tywin taking him under his wing. What Tywin said is completely true. Listen to others and make a decision based upon your trusted advisers. Sounds pretty good. Joff would just torture animals and skip meetings. Tywin could simply be trying to mold a good king where he saw Cersei fail so badly.
Khane
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Y'all be trippin. You dun drank the Tywin Kool-Aid. That man is a mind warrior who gives no shits about anything other than himself and his goals. And please don't interpret this as a spoiler because I have no idea if what I'm saying is even true, I have never read any of the books. So if you infract me you'll be spoiling the goddamn show for me!
I never said Tywin wasn't trying to manipulate. But his idea may be "Have a good king with Lannister blood." In the end is that really bad? Cersei is what, 30 or something?, Tywin is probably in the sunset of his life anyways. Just trying to make sure he leaves house Lannister in as good a spot as possible.
Tuco
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Tywin's goals and ambitions were well established in what I think was the first scene with him.
His goals are to improve the strength of his family. He doesn't care about his own personal ambition, he doesn't care about glory or power, just the legacy he leaves on with his family. He sees Tommen as the future of the Lannister legacy. And there's nothing evil or wrong in that, and his actions to make him a wise king would be hard to not classify as good even if they are only to further the strength of his own house.
Tuco
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