GoT - Is Over, Post Your Drogon Sightings

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I thought at least one of the sand snakes went to King's Landing but it's been awhile since I read the book. I could be astro'ing right now
 

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I believe it was Obara that went to KL along with Tyene. Difference being that book Tyene was playing Septa (and poisons people). I like your theory their Tuco. It does make some sense that, if we're to believe that Ellaria is taking Ariane's role then her bullshit with the Sand Snakes will stop once she's in on Doran's plot. Doran HAS to have something else up his sleeve or the Dorne bullshit will just have been completely meaningless.

Since Cersei's prophecy is the onlyone they took effort to actually show in the series to date. It has to ring true, more or less.
 

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Even if that is his plan, how do the Sand Snakes factor in? Are they going to KL also? Or do they go off the reservation and kill Myrcella, ignorant of Doran's scheme?
I think they will go to KL with intent on killing Tommen. I don't know how Ellaria and the Three Stooges will do anything but waste screentime but we'll see.
 

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I think they will go to KL with intent on killing Tommen. I don't know how Ellaria and the Three Stooges will do anything but waste screentime but we'll see.
Well I can think of a pair of ways they could spend more screen time to my viewing pleasure.
 

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She Lez's out with a character that isn't in the show... or isn't yet. I can see them replacing that character with one of the Sand Snakes.
 

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5. My theory is that Doran is going to assassinate Tommen, crowning Myrcella and making Trystane Martell the prince. He's basically doing the same thing as the Tyrells.
Doesn't make sense, completely invalidates the Tyrells as a story plot. Too many good characters there. It might work better the other way with Trystane becoming Prince of Dorne and then making a claim for the Iron Throne, marching on Kings Landing with Myrcella and an army. That moves pieces closer to where they need to be.
 

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Invalidating entire arcs is a key feature of GoT though. Tuco's theory isn't crazytown. That very well could go that way. King Bashir is sort of a pussy, if not. And I don't expect that King Bashir is actually a pussy.

A Lannister comes in, punches the fuck out of his son, and tries to abscond with the pledged bride? And all he has to say about it is, "Well. Shit does happen! Long live the King!" +gutpunch bronn.

He's up to -something-.
 

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He could quietly execute the fuck out of Jaime and face very few consequences. Besides war, I guess. But he knows that Tywin be dead. He knows there would be no war. Except for the civil war which follows the Lannisters finally falling entirely the fuck apart before he's ready to do something about it.

Edit: I mean he could kill him and then be all like, "Wut? Jimmy? We've seen no Jimmy in Dorne. Sorry. G2g, ttyl."
 

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Invalidating entire arcs is a key feature of GoT though. Tuco's theory isn't crazytown. That very well could go that way. King Bashir is sort of a pussy, if not. And I don't expect that King Bashir is actually a pussy.

A Lannister comes in, punches the fuck out of his son, and tries to abscond with the pledged bride? And all he has to say about it is, "Well. Shit does happen! Long live the King!" +gutpunch bronn.

He's up to -something-.
Except he basically seems like a pussy in the books too, which is why the Sand Snakes are all like FUCK DORAN HE A BITCH.

When in actuality he's just very patient, but also just as intent on having revenge for Elia as Oberyn was, maybe even more. And executing Jaime wouldn't really gain him anything. The real problem is that he was so patient, all the people he was plotting against went and got killed by other people.
 

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She gets it on with the wife of the guy she uses to try to oust Bronn. Then she sends her off to be an experiment for the necromancer dude who is prepping Robert Strong.
There's this scene in the books where Jaime and Cersei are talking and Jaime references that line about half the Targaryens being nutjobs from all the inbreeding, and he says they beat the odds by having two good kids with Tommen and Myrcella, but really, I think the issue is that Joffrey didn't fall very far from the tree.
 

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Doesn't make sense, completely invalidates the Tyrells as a story plot. Too many good characters there. It might work better the other way with Trystane becoming Prince of Dorne and then making a claim for the Iron Throne, marching on Kings Landing with Myrcella and an army. That moves pieces closer to where they need to be.
I disagree with that.

I think once Cersei does the walk of shame they'll need something to fill the KL plot. Killing Tommen in the start/middle of the season then having a power struggle that somehow resolves with Myrcella on the throne (with or without a dead Margery/Trystane) puts things exactly where they need to be in an entertaining way.

The question is which character is carrying weight from the Martells. Ellaria and the Sand Snakes are screen poison and everyone knows it.

I'm actually hoping they let Trystane show some flex and basically be the male version of Margery while Doran Martell is opposite of Olenna.


From the prophecy we 'know' that Tommen is going to die, Myrcella will take his place and then Myrcella will die and then a 'little brother' will choke her out.
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By the time the Martell vs Lannister vs Tyrell plot wraps up, it'll be time for the finale of ice and fire, making the whole thing irrelevant anyway.
 

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I think they will go to KL with intent on killing Tommen. I don't know how Ellaria and the Three Stooges will do anything but waste screentime but we'll see.
I dunno. We're back to, as someone mentioned before, the logistics of it all. What are the Sand Snakes going to do that is so extreme that can be set up in KL and taken to completion all in one episode along with the other storylines that have to be advanced? Taking Myrcella out while she is in Dorne is more doable there. Getting Myrcella and Trystane married, getting them to KL, then killing Tommen in a way that whoever does it isn't captured and exposes the plot sounds like a season long ordeal.
 

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They also could have just been talking out of their asses with that 'gonna set the show on a certain path' bit.

Like, either exaggerating how much of an effect whatever happens will have, or just plain lying about something big happening.
 

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David Nutter_sl said:
"Oh yes, much more involved because of the scope of it, and 1,000 extras every day. It took 12 days to shoot the entire sequence."
I think one need look no further than that for why the arena scene just didn't seem to be quite in the same league as the Battle of Hardhome. They had less than half the extras and spent three times as long shooting Hardhome. Fewer cattle to wrangle around and much more time to fine tune things.
 

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It might be a little poetic. Much like how Doran's sister was killed by the Mountain and everyone knew it but could do nothing about it. Tommen may be killed in a way that everyone knows it was Doran, but nobody is in a position to do anything about it.
 

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I dunno. We're back to, as someone mentioned before, the logistics of it all. What are the Sand Snakes going to do that is so extreme that can be set up in KL and taken to completion all in one episode along with the other storylines that have to be advanced? Taking Myrcella out while she is in Dorne is more doable there. Getting Myrcella and Trystane married, getting them to KL, then killing Tommen in a way that whoever does it isn't captured and exposes the plot sounds like a season long ordeal.
I agree. I think this whole setup will be shown in the next season.

I'm predicting next season's KL scenes are all about the Martells vs the Tyrells with Cleganebowl on the side.

I don't think we'll get much of anything out of the Martells in the next episode besides maybe a small scene showing travel and perhaps setting up the plot in a more obvious way. The next episode will be dominated by Cersei and Jon with a side of Stannis preparing for a siege, Tyrion realizing he's holding a bag of shit, Samwell getting sent down south, and Brienne/Ramsay/Sansa/Reek setting themselves up for the next season.
 

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They also could have just been talking out of their asses with that 'gonna set the show on a certain path' bit.

Like, either exaggerating how much of an effect whatever happens will have, or just plain lying about something big happening.
Yeah I never pay attention to actor interviews for stuff.