GoT - Is Over, Post Your Drogon Sightings

Kreugen · May 12, 2015

What I'm getting at is Littlefinger isn't following some perfectly laid out script. But while everything seems to be going wrong for Varys, the unanticipated consequences of what LF set in motion have all been in his favor mostly by chance.

An easy example is Bran getting pushed out the window.

I don't think his goal is the Iron Throne - I think his ambitions simply have no ceiling, and he wants to go as far as his wits and fortune can take him. Success is a ladder, blah blah. It's not "I want to reach X" it's "how high can I go?"

Varys has a much more specific plan, and that's why everything seems to go wrong even while it does manage to continue moving forward.

Attog · May 12, 2015

Man how awesome are the actors they got to play Stannis and Roose? I don't remember caring about either of those characters while reading the books but watching the show I want to see more of them.

Tenks · May 12, 2015

I don't actually get the same impression of book Roose as I do from show Roose. Which isn't exactly a terrible thing but I was always expecting a thinner, gaunter, quieter more slight man than the Roose from the show. The show Roose seems pretty much the same as any other lord in the realm.

Drinsic · May 12, 2015

So are they scrapping the letter from Ramsay and setting up the stabbing as a result of Jon bringing with wildlings from Hardhome through the Wall or something? Episode 8 is called Hardhome, so I'm guessing Jon makes it there. Also, that dude who played the Night's King is credited again. I want to see that stuff more than anything else in the north.

spronk · May 12, 2015

Cybsled_sl said:
If Jon gets rezed, it won't be during the finale. They will let viewers suffer lol

edit: Damn, it just dawned on me. Barristan's death is setting up Jon's death! He got stabbed multiple times and died. I bet they will show Jon getting stabbed way worse, then viewers will go "omg, Barristan got stabbed the same way and died! Jon is fucked!!"

Then next season the "previous on GoT" will recap all the red priest rez stuff

I suspect we'll see the kid slit Jon's throat. We saw someone almost slit Barristan's throat, so that would drive home the point that Jon is even deder than Barristan. Second it would be a nod to Lady Stoneheart.

Who rez's Jon though is an issue, either Mel and Stannis are driven back to Castle Black (kinda weird) or maybe the White Walker King tries to rez Jon (and turn him into a wight) but something happens that basically turns him into a white walker who isn't evil? SomethingSomething about the blood of Azor Ahai in him, or the blood of Targs, or whatever. It would be a nod as well to Benjen Stark, who Jon would basically be replacing.

and yeah its kind of weird we haven't seen anything of Thoros of Myr or Dondarrion at all this season

also at the end of this season we won't need 2 threads anymore, right?

Slaythe · May 12, 2015

attog_sl said:
Man how awesome are the actors they got to play Stannis and Roose? I don't remember caring about either of those characters while reading the books but watching the show I want to see more of them.

Stannis this season is making up for the loss of Charles Dance for sure. He's a great book character and I never thought the show adaptation was that great, but they're coming around with the character. The guy they have playing Roose has killed that roll from the very start. Agree on both of these.

Drinsic · May 12, 2015

Cybsled_sl said:
If Jon gets rezed, it won't be during the finale. They will let viewers suffer lol

edit: Damn, it just dawned on me. Barristan's death is setting up Jon's death! He got stabbed multiple times and died. I bet they will show Jon getting stabbed way worse, then viewers will go "omg, Barristan got stabbed the same way and died! Jon is fucked!!"

Then next season the "previous on GoT" will recap all the red priest rez stuff

I'd prefer they end his story this season with Mel looking at his corpse/starting the prayer Thoros used on Beric. Depends on what actually happens with Jon obviously. If he wargs into Ghost in the books, doesn't really mean he will in the show.

Kreugen · May 12, 2015

They even had Stannis validate Sam in his own cold logical fashion. Two weeks of touching scenes with fucking Stannis the Mannis? Dammit, too many people are on team Stannis now.

Tenks · May 12, 2015

If you weren't on team Stannis after seeing his girl Melly's beautiful boobies I don't know what you were doing

Royal · May 12, 2015

spronk_sl said:
Who rez's Jon though is an issue, either Mel and Stannis are driven back to Castle Black (kinda weird)

Melisandre sees shit in her flames all the time. She could very well forsee Jon's death in time to turn back.

Intrinsic · May 12, 2015

Slaythe_sl said:
Stannis this season is making up for the loss of Charles Dance for sure. He's a great book character and I never thought the show adaptation was that great, but they're coming around with the character. The guy they have playing Roose has killed that roll from the very start. Agree on both of these.

Other than the 'fewer' line by Stannis, my favorite part of last episode had to be the look on Roose's face while Ramsay was doing his thing. It was just this perfect disinterested and disgusted bored expression. Cracked me up.

Tuco · May 12, 2015

Cad_sl said:
I always wondered what Martin was doing with Oldtown. It's supposed to be by far the biggest city, but have we ever met a character in the books that is from there? The Maesters are trained there, but other than that, it's just this "place" that exists but never does anything, nobody is from there, and no power evidently originates there because they have no army etc.

Oldtown is under highgarden and the Tyrells, right?

Oldtown is one of the bastions of power in the Reach. It's really no less seen than say, Lannisport/Casterly Rock. I think they'll investigate it more when/if Sam goes there.

And now show stannis is getting a taste of what book stannis was. Book stannis was even more concerned with the whitewalkers and the good of the realm.

Cad · May 12, 2015

Drinsic_sl said:
I'd prefer they end his story this season with Mel looking at his corpse/starting the prayer Thoros used on Beric. Depends on what actually happens with Jon obviously. If he wargs into Ghost in the books, doesn't really mean he will in the show.

I don't think we've even seen Ghost at all in quite a while have we? In the books he seemed a lot more omnipresent.

Cad · May 12, 2015

Tuco_sl said:
Oldtown is one of the bastions of power in the Reach. It's really no less seen than say, Lannisport/Casterly Rock. I think they'll investigate it more when/if Sam goes there.

And now show stannis is getting a taste of what book stannis was. Book stannis was even more concerned with the whitewalkers and the good of the realm.

I guess we see a lot of characters from Storms End (all the baratheons), Casterly Rock (Lannisters), the Vale (Arryns, LittleFinger, etc) Riverrun, Winterfell, Dorne, Highgarden...

Who is from Oldtown? Supposedly the biggest city in Westeros. Nobody important is from there. It'd be like having a book about the 50 richest and most powerful Americans and never mentioning any of them have ever been to or are from New York, and nothing ever happens there.

iannis · May 12, 2015

TEAM STANNIS FOR LIFE.

HIS LIFE, NOT MINE.

Tenks · May 12, 2015

Cad_sl said:
I guess we see a lot of characters from Storms End (all the baratheons), Casterly Rock (Lannisters), the Vale (Arryns, LittleFinger, etc) Riverrun, Winterfell, Dorne, Highgarden...

Who is from Oldtown? Supposedly the biggest city in Westeros. Nobody important is from there. It'd be like having a book about the 50 richest and most powerful Americans and never mentioning any of them have ever been to or are from New York, and nothing ever happens there.

You mean like physically born in Oldtown? Because every Maester is "from" Oldtown. I don't think there is really a ruling family over Oldtown outside of the Tyrells. So possibly some of the Tyrell nobles could have been born in Oldtown.

iannis · May 12, 2015

Maybe Oldtown is a designated green zone. The city of the Maesters. True Neutral. "We just run the gubmint, mi'lords. And sometimes raise zombies if you let us."

Like sacred ground in The Highlander.

Drinsic · May 12, 2015

Cad_sl said:
I don't think we've even seen Ghost at all in quite a while have we? In the books he seemed a lot more omnipresent.

I don't recall seeing him since the battle at the Wall, but I could be wrong.

Malakriss · May 12, 2015

Iannis_sl said:
TEAM STANNIS FOR LIFE.

HIS LIFE, NOT MINE.

That's cute, you think you'll live longer.

taebin · May 12, 2015

Ehh, I seem to remember the Hightower's being the ruling family of Oldtown. As in Gerold Hightower fame. And wasn't one of the Sand Snakes merry little band a Hightower kid?

Edit - after looking at ASOIAF wiki, I'm thinking of Gerold Dayne (Darkstar). Not a Hightower.

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