GoT - Is Over, Post Your Drogon Sightings

The high sparrow might be the one to decide?

Tuco_sl said:

It's more complex than that. If Tommen dies there will be a power grab. The Lannisters won't be content with just giving the throne to the Tyrells, and the Tyrells won't be content with losing it. There's no governing body here that determines who is king and queen.

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This is what I was saying. This is why someone could even go crazy and push Gendry's claim, or Edric's, because all you need is some sort of suitable pretense to back someone for the throne to cover up the fact of it being a personal power grab.

Lenas_sl said:

The high sparrow might be the one to decide?

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The biggest danger from the High Sparrow is him declaring Tommen and Myrcella to be the products of incest, which would throw the whole realm into chaos. At that point Stannis truly would be the rightful king and they would have to scramble to come up with someone new to put on the throne who had some sort of legitimate claim, however twisted.

I don't see that happening though, it would be pretty terrible writing. For one thing it would damn near write House Martell out of the story, since their only real angle in all of this is having custody of Myrcella. If she becomes worthless as a hostage, House Martell suddenly find themselves out of the game.

Everyone is forgetting Stannis the Mannis. He ain't dead yet!

Stannis is done, with all the foreshadowing im surprised how many stannis fans think he will last long. Im not looking forward to whats going to happen to Davos

Thank you captain Pedant, I'm well aware Edric doesn't exist in the show. Aside from the fact that we often use this thread to speculate about things that aren't in the show, I was simply illustrating the fact that they would potentially dig up and crown any Baratheon bastard they could find if Myrcella and Tommen were outed, because the only other option would be for a different great house to take the throne directly, which the great houses would not want to allow to happen.

I don't agree Stannis is done. Maybe this is his turning point from Just Tactician Hardass to Tunnel Visioned Zealot Monster. Everyone thinks Dany is going heel, why not Stannis? I hope he makes it to King's Landing, sits on the throne, Melisandre tells him to sacrifice Flea Bottom with fire to stop Danaerys and Davos Kingslays the shit out of him. It'd be like Aerys alllll over again.

Not sure about on here, I think there's 2-3 people, but it's one of the few theories abound on the webz. Dany basically gets so frustrated with trying to rule correctly she just starts melting everyone who opposes her with dragons and her army. Basically she does what Stannis is doing and starts sacrificing her humanity to become "The One".

I don't know if I follow that, but it'd be interesting to say the least. With Tyrion with her I think it'd be hard for her to turn that hard.

Dany is the last person im rooting for, her dragged out story and action have been annoying as shit. I would root for any other female character over Dany at this point. With how much shit that has happen in such short time its going to be retarded if Dany manages to get an army established and unite everyone when everything has gone to shit for her so far. Jon makes sense somewhat since he could have links everywhere, Targ, Starks, even wildlings ect

Just pondering on the whole...contenders to the title and all, but doesn't it seem like the show makes Littefinger seem vastly superior to Varys in his moves? Varys seems like he's done nothing much worth anything of late. In the books it made more sense for him to be the silent hand behind Tyrion's eventual move to meet up with Dany, only to return finally after being in hiding for a long while to murder Kevan because he wanted the 7 Kingdoms unsettled for the Targ return to glory...but so far in this season while he started Tyrion on the road to Dany, he fucking lost him in a brothel essentially and hasn't been seen since. Will seem a little more jarring for him to turn up and murder Kevan while basically not giving a fuck about what happened to Tyrion.

I suppose we could assume he heard word that Tyrion successfully entered Dany's service, but it still feels more like he fucked up one of his plots and is just coming back trying to salvage something of his play by killing Kevan. Meanwhile, LF is sitting back chilling waiting to see who win the war of attrition at Winterfell, after having maneuvered Sansa into a position where she could inherit power in the North again, with himself poised to raise up the Knights of the Vale to fall over either Stannis or the Boltons. After which, he had a deal in place to be named Warden of the North. I guess his one possible miscalculation is the fact that deal was with Cersei, who has been royally fucked, but whether she comes back into power or not if he eliminates the winner of the fight at Winterfell, all of the North will back him as Lord of the Vale and the guiding hand behind Sansa.

Reading the book vicariously through this thread has been much more interesting and time efficient.

Faltigoth_sl said:

It is also essentially how Henry Tudor ended the War of the Roses, on which this is VERY loosely based. Invaded from across the sea after years of exile, picked up a small force of loyalists, and quickly defeated Richard III at Bosworth Field (with the help of some timely betrayals), taking the throne and ushering in the Tudor dynasty by marrying Elizabeth of York. Worth noting that Henry also fought under a dragon banner (the banner of Wales).

While the divergence from history is quite extreme, the general idea of a strong claimant from across the sea showing up and wrecking shit in an already weakened country has a direct historical correlation. I've always surmised Sansa Stark would end up in that Elizabeth of York role somehow.

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Damn, brah! Spoilers!

Did some Vikings invade Engerland after that? Fucking white walkers, I swear...

Chanur_sl said:

Unless she has a kid she has no claim unless Highgarden seizes the throne which would be likely. Remember in the show though the Lannister forces are not as weak as in the books.

I hope Dany turns heel it's the only way she will ever be interesting.

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As former Queen she has enough of a claim that it would politically be more than just the Tyrell's deciding they wanted the Iron Throne for themselves. They could also secure the support of another great house against the Lannisters by offering to marry one of their heirs to Margaery, making him a king.