Gravy's Cooking Thread

Tonic_sl · Jan 9, 2015

BrutalTM - what kind of cattle do you raise? My aunt in KY and Uncle in TN both raise Black Angus. I guess they're pretty well regarded in the scene.

Vitality · Jan 9, 2015

Gravy_sl said:
Damn, he's even wanting you to butcher it and wrap it. $15/lb.

15/lb for montana grown stuff seems reasonable to me. Especially premium cut and packaged.

@Brutul, thanks for the info.

Gravy · Jan 9, 2015

I was mainly busting your chops, but really, you'd pay $15? What are you calling 'premium cut'?

Khane · Jan 9, 2015

Vitality is the exact kind of person that makes it possible for stores like Whole Foods to exist.

Soygen · Jan 9, 2015

Yeah, Brutul is now reconsidering shipping beef out.

Vitality · Jan 9, 2015

Gravy_sl said:
I was mainly busting your chops, but really, you'd pay $15? What are you calling 'premium cut'?

Umm, I'm not particularly sure, premium cut is something like Ribeye/Chef-cut Ribeye, Ball Tip/Tri Tip, Top Blade, T-Bone and Filet.

Something like that. And yeah, knowing the farmer/butcher and where the steak comes from is worth $15 a lb just so I can tell the story. Like a hipster fuck.

I'd part ways with a couple hundred bucks for a nice little party pack from a farmer acquaintance fairly easily. A lot of the people I know in my immediate colleague/friend circle would do the same.

Lanx · Jan 9, 2015

Lohk_sl said:
As Khane pointed out, there is no reason to bleed money. Keeping meals under a certain dollar limit is a fine goal. $5 a day is lofty, but I'll continue to work with it.

Right now, on a cut, I eat 1700 calories that mostly consist of: turkey bacon, bread, eggs, tuna, chicken breast, sweet potatoes, brown rice, peanut butter and cottage cheese. Food plus some other nonfood items totals to about $50-$60 a week. It seems too much to me. I can definitely do better.

@lanx: I've had to eat 1 cup of brown rice plus other items and I agree, it was hard to eat all that food. Unfortunately I live in small town Oklahoma where asians only exist to set up buffet places. I'm limited by the single shelf at Walmart for asian cooking. I suppose I could order it online if it's cheap enough and I don't have to be pay shipping.

buy you're foods from amazon then,
Amazon.com : Botan Calrose Rice, 15-Pound : Dried White Rice : Grocery Gourmet Food
15lb bag for 15bucks

i used to live in bum fuck amish ville so i needed to go online to find asian food.

I also believe 10$ per person, cooked food is excessive or just not calculated properly, if you have a stocked kitchen (i.e. you don't have to go out and buy vinegar or fucking pepper when the recipe calls for it)

it should be like 5 to 10bucks for both people.

Like for now my wife and I are prepping our yearly together workout with p90x, this whole week i've been cooking healthy, last night it was chinese/korean style chicken with bok choy and nappa cabbage, i had a cup of rice on the side for myself. (wife is going all protein and veggies)

guesstimating it cost $3.50 for the both of us.

total list for everything
2tsp olive oil
2tsp butter
1/4 white onion
3 cloves garlic
2 slivers of ginger root
15oz chicken breast covered in corn starch
1tbls of vinegar
1tbls of soy
1tbls of brown sugar
2tsp of honey
10 oz of bok choy
10 oz of nappa cabbage
1 cup of rice

yea if break down every little piece it's 3.50$ total for 2, do you account for the startup cost? like having to buy a whole onion for 2bucks a lb or an entire head of garlic for 1buck, but then you can also say if you're cooking, you're gonna have that shit around anyway. (just like salt/pepper) so the main cost is the chicken and vegs.

Vitality · Jan 9, 2015

Khane_sl said:
Vitality is the exact kind of person that makes it possible for stores like Whole Foods to exist.

I haven't stepped foot in that marked-up shitfest. Buying artisinal isn't the same thing as shopping at whole foods to me.

Brutul seems like the real deal montana thing, I think that is cool as hell.

Gravy · Jan 9, 2015

Vitality_sl said:
Umm, I'm not particularly sure, premium cut is something like Ribeye/Chef-cut Ribeye, Ball Tip/Tri Tip, Top Blade, T-Bone and Filet.

Something like that. And yeah, knowing the farmer/butcher and where the steak comes from is worth $15 a lb just so I can tell the story. Like a hipster fuck.

I'd part ways with a couple hundred bucks for a nice little party pack from a farmer acquaintance fairly easily. A lot of the people I know in my immediate colleage/friend circle would do the same.

That's cool then. Those cuts are around $10 here right now, so I can see that price in Seattle. As far as knowing the farmer, that's a good idea, and the average of a 1/4 or 1/2 cow would drop your price some, I would think, even in Washington. I know there have to be cows there, but for the life of me, I can't recall seeing herds there from my travels. I lived for a few months in Seattle back in the days when Trader Joe's was still cheap as fuck. That's been awhile.

Khane · Jan 9, 2015

Vitality_sl said:
I haven't stepped foot in that marked-up shitfest. Buying artisinal isn't the same thing as shopping at whole foods to me.

Brutul seems like the real deal montana thing, I think that is cool as fuck.

Whole foods started exactly as you're describing. It catered to people like you and then took off from there.

Gravy · Jan 9, 2015

Here ya go: Sold as whole, half, or by the quarter at $3.00 per pound hanging weight.

http://www.bobsbeef.com/

Monroe, WA

Vitality · Jan 9, 2015

Khane_sl said:
Whole foods started exactly as you're describing. It catered to people like you and then took off from there.

I get that, but actually knowing the guy is worth quite a bit of money to me.

Thanks for the link Gravy, good reference point, they require $300 as a deposit for butchering an entire quarter and are sold out until the end of this year after further followup.

Lohk_sl · Jan 9, 2015

lanx_sl said:
buy you're foods from amazon then,
Amazon.com : Botan Calrose Rice, 15-Pound : Dried White Rice : Grocery Gourmet Food
15lb bag for 15bucks

i used to live in bum fuck amish ville so i needed to go online to find asian food.

I also believe 10$ per person, cooked food is excessive or just not calculated properly, if you have a stocked kitchen (i.e. you don't have to go out and buy vinegar or fucking pepper when the recipe calls for it)

it should be like 5 to 10bucks for both people.

Like for now my wife and I are prepping our yearly together workout with p90x, this whole week i've been cooking healthy, last night it was chinese/korean style chicken with bok choy and nappa cabbage, i had a cup of rice on the side for myself. (wife is going all protein and veggies)

guesstimating it cost $3.50 for the both of us.

total list for everything
2tsp olive oil
2tsp butter
1/4 white onion
3 cloves garlic
2 slivers of ginger root
15oz chicken breast covered in corn starch
1tbls of vinegar
1tbls of soy
1tbls of brown sugar
2tsp of honey
10 oz of bok choy
10 oz of nappa cabbage
1 cup of rice

yea if break down every little piece it's 3.50$ total for 2, do you account for the startup cost? like having to buy a whole onion for 2bucks a lb or an entire head of garlic for 1buck, but then you can also say if you're cooking, you're gonna have that shit around anyway. (just like salt/pepper) so the main cost is the chicken and vegs.

Holy shit I had no idea you could get such fantastic deals off Amazon. Looks like I need a prime account.

Looking over your ingredients, I would only need to buy a few of the items. A couple start up items like vinegar and brown sugar. I don't have an ideally stocked kitchen, been working on that week by week. What items do you use regularly?

Adebisi · Jan 9, 2015

This weekend I'm going to attempt coq au vin. Mmmmmmm.

Adebisi · Jan 9, 2015

I realize I've completely underestimated the deliciousness of classic French dishes.

Khane · Jan 9, 2015

They are also the most involved, time consuming dishes on planet earth to make. First make your stock, then your broth, then your base sauce, then your secondary sauce, then your serving sauce. Now make the dish in 12 steps as well.

Adebisi · Jan 9, 2015

That's what makes it fun!

Vitality · Jan 9, 2015

Barraco Bisi_sl said:
That's what makes it fun!

I'm with Bisi on this one, I would much rather cook a meal than eat a meal (If I somehow didn't require food to live). I'm not a big fan of eating to be honest.

Soygen · Jan 9, 2015

I love cooking, but eating is like on par with sex as far as most pleasurable things we can experience. Then again, you can't eat bread, so that's like the impotence of the eating world.

Vitality · Jan 9, 2015

Soygen_sl said:
I love cooking, but eating is like on par with sex as far as most pleasurable things we can experience. Then again, you can't eat bread, so that's like the impotence of the eating world.

Yeah I have Food E.D. a lot of the time I just replace entire meals with juiced Kale & Assorted fruits/veggies.

Cooking french is a lot of fun.

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