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Fogel

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USDA guidelines put pork loin internal temp at 145 if you want 100% safe but not well done. Can always go lower with a slightly longer cook time.
 
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I mean, USDA guidelines warn about eating fried eggs too.

Pork loin isnt to be cooked well done.

When we cooked pork loin in the restaurant it was a heavy sear then a fairly short roasting time, served at medium unless ordered otherwise. To be honest its something I've almost never cooked at home, cause there are so many other nice cuts on a pig.
 
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Something I've had great success with is this: sear the loin hard, then put it in the oven to get it to about 120 degrees. In the mean time, make stuffing. And make it wetter than you usually do. When the loin is at 120 take it out, make a ring with it if you can, and put the stuffing both inside the ring and around it. If you can't make a ring, just surround it with the wet, uncooked stuffing. Put it back in the oven until the stuffing is where you want it to be. While you're letting that cook, you can make a gravy using some of the liquid in your baking dish from the loin. When everything is done, make fairly thin slices of the loin, serve these thin slices with plenty of stuffing and cover the whole thing with the gravy you made. Pork gravy is incredibly delicious, especially if you include a little bacon in it.

I've done this a lot, never feels dry, and if you seared the pork well in the first place you get a good texture combination with the pork and stuffing.

This dish pairs incredibly well with green beans cooked as you like them. Also goes very well with drunken apples, or, my favourite, drunken pears. Cook the fruit in butter and whiskey until it is soft, but not yet applesauce. A little crunch and tartness from (for example) green apples done this way is great. Add a little brown sugar to the fruit, not too much, and it's a nice plate of food.
Right on!

That's similar to one of the things I do if I'm making pork loin. I'll either do a small section of a loin or cut it into super thick chops, bread and panko and sear, and set aside. Then make a gravy out of the rendered fat, and I'll cheat by getting a good can of cream of mushroom soup. Mix all that together dump it into a big Pyrex dish, and place my chops or loin in there, and slow roast to desired internal temp.

Meanwhile you're roasting a bulb of garlic with lots of olive oil for mashed potatoes, and making stuffing and other veggies. Then throw it all together and it's a wonderful meal.

Had a great grandmother who used to do breaded veal chops and it was one of the greatest things I've ever had, and one of those special occasion meals for birthdays or visiting with family. Anytime I get a chance to go to Wisconsin, one of my uncles will always make it. Veal is just so goddamned expensive now, we started using pork in this method, and it's close and scratches that itch. A good piece of fatty loin it's the closest thing, and it's way more cost-effective.

Man now I really want veal.
 

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145 is medium rare for pork loin and should be nice and juicy
 
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I take it out at 140 and rest it for 10 minutes. Dot thermometer makes cooking meat too easy.
 
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I take it out at 140 and rest it for 10 minutes. Dot thermometer makes cooking meat too easy.
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I dont do rare ass pork like that and even if I did the tenderloin is way too dry. I tried it in my rotisserie a few times and never cared for it. Only pork we ever consume is shit like pork chops, which we usually pan fry with breading like a schnitzel, pork steaks in summer and of course pork butts because they are so cheap. And of course smoked hocks, necks, sauasge of all kind...etc...
 

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Why? Reason I ask is I know people that say it smells like sweaty Mexicans. Does that kind of describe why you don't like it?

It's definitely a different flavor for spice, but one of the best meals I ever had in my life was at a Chinese restaurant in Charleston South Carolina. Apparently there's a Mongolian style dry fried lamb dish with lots of cumin. Wife had taken me there when we were dating, and it was the first time I ever found it on a menu. Was utterly delicious, and I just found out that place is actually closing down after it being a local hit for Lord knows how long. I tried to replicate it but you've got to get the whole cumin seed and I haven't found the good fresh stuff, and you got to get your damn walk ripping hot. Lanx Lanx knows what I'm talking about.
I like a little cumin, I do enjoy Lawry's Seasoning Salt for example. I just don't like a lot of it.
 
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Pork loin is 2 dollars a pound, what do yall expect? Slice it into chops and don't overcook them.
 
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For people who aren't that into cooking and/or cheap, sous vide is the way to go. I've rarely had any issues with pork loin in the oven, but with sous vide it's non-issue. Can't screw up even the leanest and/or cheapest cuts of meat like a pork loin, so it'll pay for itself in no time. And It's nice because it frees up attention for other things so you're not having to juggle too much and risk overcooking the meat.
 
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For people who aren't that into cooking and/or cheap, sous vide is the way to go. I've rarely had any issues with pork loin in the oven, but with sous vide it's non-issue. Can't screw up even the leanest and/or cheapest cuts of meat like a pork loin, so it'll pay for itself in no time. And It's nice because it frees up attention for other things so you're not having to juggle too much and risk overcooking the meat.
I've got one of the original or maybe second gen anovas. I was sous viding stuff pretty regularly but I haven't broken that damn thing out of my pantry and eons. At the last time I did anything with it was sous viding a couple of tri-tips for my annual get together with my buddies from college and high school. They turned out perfect after throwing them onto a hot grill to sear off.

I used to use the damn thing all the time, but after getting a thermal pen, I just sit and constantly monitor temps when I'm grilling and I'm rarely disappointed with the results, I'll screw up sometimes, but just consider it practice. I just found that the sous vide sometimes would turn the meat a little too mealy, or screw with the texture. I know there's a little bit of finesse when using it to make certain it seems normal, but I think I just like constantly probing. I understand it's definitely more of a convenience thing, but if I only do a big production meal once a week, I don't mind giving whatever that special attention.

I did my wagyu chuck roast experiment the other night and man turned out perfect. America's test kitchen has never steered me wrong. I've got a choice Chuck Roast trust up and dry brining for 24 hours that I'm cooking tonight just to see what the difference is between the two grades.

No sous vide, just monitoring the grill and temps.
Going to make some cheese potatoes my mom used to make, and grill some asparagus. The wonderful thing is the leftovers from the previous one make amazing roast beef sandwiches with the horseradish sauce I made.

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Might be hard to tell but that was maybe a four and a half to 5 lb chuck roast. I'll snap some photos of the one I'm throwing on this evening prior to cooking. Wife and I were both really impressed with doing this stupid simple technique, and I never would have thought just tying such a cheap cut of meat up would have given us great roast beef results. Yeah it's not the same as a tenderloin, but it's much beefier and the fat really helps. I think it's going to be one of those things that we do fairly often especially when I can find Chuck roasts on sale.
 
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popsicledeath

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I just found that the sous vide sometimes would turn the meat a little too mealy, or screw with the texture.

This can definitely happen. Lots of trial and error figuring out what I want to sous vide and how. And like every gadget there are a million ezmode blogs that are full of shit.

Reminds me of the people who justify their instant pot by claiming it does everything better, especially meat, but pressure cooked meat is my least favorite thing and I have the same issues with mealy and changing textures. I'm sure some people can do it right, but I haven't had it yet and wasn't impressed with my own efforts.

Some stuff is just too convenient for me not to sous vide. Will throw steaks on the grill, the a pork butt or roast after that I'll sous vide and have for dinner a few days later with smokey grill flavor but not having to monitor except to refill water.

It's not my preferred way to do pulled pork. Still smoky and texture/timing is right every time. Then make sauce from the smoky drippings. And no more cleanup than the grill I was using anyhow
 
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Reminds me of the people who justify their instant pot by claiming it does everything better, especially meat, but pressure cooked meat is my least favorite thing and I have the same issues with mealy and changing textures. I'm sure some people can do it right, but I haven't had it yet and wasn't impressed with my own efforts.
you know me, i did rice tests on both brands, instapot and ninja,
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My girlfriend makes great pot roasts in the instapot. When I have tried to do it, they sucked. I haven't bothered to get her to teach me because I'd rather just use the slow cooker. Nothing better than coming in the door after a long day of work and smelling your pot roast that's ready to eat.
 
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Fogel

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Best thing from my instapot I've been able to make is pulled pork. Can do a 4 lb shoulder pulled pork in under an hour. Just give it a good sear before you throw it in.
 

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Do the searing in the instapot. The heat output on that fucker is amazing. I wish I could figure out a bolognese in the instapot, it ends up scorching it due to, I'm guessing, some combination of not enough water or too much sugar.
 

Lanx

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Do the searing in the instapot. The heat output on that fucker is amazing. I wish I could figure out a bolognese in the instapot, it ends up scorching it due to, I'm guessing, some combination of not enough water or too much sugar.
i never liked doing the searing in the instapot, idk the pot just seems to suck,
i believe it's the grade of ss used, instapot is 18/8, while regular pans like allclad, etc use 18/10
 

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The metal is different, definitely. I'm more forgiving because most of the time, the pressure cooking will dissolve any stuck on bits, which is the point of doing it in that pot.

What issues have you had using it to sear?
 

Lanx

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The metal is different, definitely. I'm more forgiving because most of the time, the pressure cooking will dissolve any stuck on bits, which is the point of doing it in that pot.

What issues have you had using it to sear?
i just don't like it, you say the stuck bits disappear, for me the stuck bits stay and create black char at the end.

i make a chinese oxtail soup monthly and i brown the meat in my carbon steel pan instead, and i hate using extra pans.