Hearthstone

Angelwatch

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I've said this before but it bears repeating: The thing about Zoo is that while there are some versions that are more effective than others, Zoo isn't a traditional deck but more of a mindset or playtstyle. Because of the Warlock's Hero Power, I don't think Zoo will ever go away. It's simply going to adapt to whatever new cards come out and swap things around as appropriate. It's simply a minion-centric deck that utilizes "value" minions to maintain board control and utilizes the Hero Power to make sure you never run out of cards. It's also why all the "Nerf Zoo" cries are dumb because it relies, primarily, on Neutral Minions with just a handful of Warlock specific cards. If you nerf a card, Zoo simply swaps that card out for what is now the new high value card. The only way to nerf Zoo is to go after the Warlock's Hero Power and that's something Blizzard doesn't want to do (mess with Hero Powers).

In my opinion, one of the things that makes Zoo so strong is that it's very rare for them to go a turn where they simply "pass" their turn or "Hero Power + Pass." From turn 1, you're dropping minions and your opponent is going to fall behind at some point.
 

Morrow

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Could I get a deck list? Would love to play aggro that can deal 45 against:
charger
token
token
coin abomination
abomination
(admittedly comp's draw 2nd game was worse)
No matter what class:

It honestly doesn't matter as long as you have x2 Elven Archer, x2 Owl, x2 Farseer and x2 Mind Control. I built the Rogue deck in about 10 seconds and it could probably be vastly improved, but it doesn't need it. Roflstomps all day against Heroic Maex.
 

Lasch

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I was able to clear heroic with combo druid, zoo, druidmill. But i was hoping to find the basic aggro mage that had no issues. I am willing to piggyback onto that train for ranked.
 

Morrow

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I was able to clear heroic with combo druid, zoo, druidmill. But i was hoping to find the basic aggro mage that had no issues. I am willing to piggyback onto that train for ranked.
Oh yeah I'd be interested to see his deck as well. I'd think agro mage would have problems with Anub or at the very least Maex.
 

yimmien

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Just played seven zoos in a row, I switch decks and then run into lame ass priest and paladin take an hour decks. Done with this meta for a while. It is somehow even worse than it was before.
 

slippery

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Yeah, I meant the Haunted Creeper. I got the two confused. The little spider guy who spawns littler spider guys on death.
tbh that card is really bad unless you have a dire wolf out for the 2 1/1's. While it is 3/4 stats for 2 mana, it's likely to not actually trade for anything.
 

Arbitrary

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Aside from all the synergies with Knife Juggler, buffing creatures, and its resistance versus mass removal it's a Harvest Golem in the 2 mana slot.
 

slippery

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It's a useless 1 attack minion, it literally is absolutely terrible and your opponent is going to kill it for free unless you actually draw something that synergizes with it.
 

Gavinmad

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Actually the real problem with Haunted Creeper is that your opponent can ignore it, not that he can easily kill it.
 

chthonic-anemos

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heroic post +1
1st fight: unleash the hounds, scavenging hyenas, houndmasters, gladiator's longbow
2nd: zoo
3rd:
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slippery

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Exactly. Your opponent kills it for free because for you to get any value out of it at all you're going to have to attack something with it and then hope the 2 1/1's don't die to incidental damage before your next turn since they don't even have charge.

Edit: It's basically a more situational Imp Master with less upside and 1 less cost
 

Delly

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Heroic Maex seems like the hardest for people but it seems like a large variety of decks work well against her.
 

Angelwatch

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Heroic Maex seems like the hardest for people but it seems like a large variety of decks work well against her.
It's not that she's hard exactly but people want to beat her without changing their normal, everyday, decks. She's very gimmicky and easy to beat but it really takes a different approach than what people are used to.
 

sebur

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For all of you saying the Heroics were super easy I would wager the people on this forum are probably better than the average player. I mean me personally, I don't consider myself good at this game (think highest I have gotten is rank 11? which is trash) and I found the heroics easy. With that in mind, I did get to listen to 2 of my friends yesterday over the course of what had to be 3-4 hours get increasingly frustrated as they continued to get murdered by the heroics before they switched games.
 

Frenzic

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For all of you saying the Heroics were super easy I would wager the people on this forum are probably better than the average player. I mean me personally, I don't consider myself good at this game (think highest I have gotten is rank 11? which is trash) and I found the heroics easy. With that in mind, I did get to listen to 2 of my friends yesterday over the course of what had to be 3-4 hours get increasingly frustrated as they continued to get murdered by the heroics before they switched games.
Normal version is for casuals, if you want real challenge, its the heroic. That is why you see a lot of complaining about how easy it was. Heroic was meant for the "good" players and they are the ones that are complaining. I was expecting to bang my head against the computer for days before I got through the first wing, instead I beat it within 2 hours (including the horrible lag).

I'd be fine with them making the normal version a little harder as well, to challenge the casual players more. Normal was a complete joke honestly.

This was only the first wing so hopefully they make the next wings progressively more difficult.
 

sebur

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While I agree, both modes were a joke, you have to remember their target audience is probably the casuals. I hope each wing gets harder but I am not holding my breath. I would be surprised if most of the casuals can complete the heroic version of the wing before the next wing comes out. The problem is I am not sure there is much they can do in the way of making it crazy hard like we might want it due to the nature of the game.
 
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Heroics were pretty much what I expected. Well, maybe slightly easier than expected but when you can customize your gimmicky deck for one specific encounter it's never going to be that hard unless they go full out retarded.