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Gavinmad
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Eh, I see lots of high level streamers not even running Shrinkmeister in their priest decks. You guys are wildly overestimating how good it is.
Yes, it's a good way to punish ultra greedy crap like Ysera, but the bottom line is that all the Shrinkmeister combos are clunky and slow and only good against other ultra greedy control decks. Otherwise there just isn't room for them.
Yes, it's a good way to punish ultra greedy crap like Ysera, but the bottom line is that all the Shrinkmeister combos are clunky and slow and only good against other ultra greedy control decks. Otherwise there just isn't room for them.
Nidhogg
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Ysera isn't an ultra greedy card, it's one legendary - in fact other "greedy" control decks are really just control decks- the whole point is to slow play with big hard to deal with creatures. The fact that priest has kill it answers for ATK< 3 , ATK > 5, and now Shadow madness for ATK = 5 and Cabal for the sweet spot ATK = 4 cards, you often get two for one'd in board control when they play their hugely difficult hard to assemble 2 card combo, and now you're behind on board presence, and against priest that is always a death sentence.
Of course the answer is to play aggro, but it's just sad that priest only does one thing well, and that is control, and Blizz didn't help matters any by giving them more class specific cards to win control matchups.
Morrow
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Yeah I was going to say the same thing. Calling Ysera extra greedy just makes me feel sad at the concept of a 9 mana cost legendary being ultra greedy.
What happens when Malorne dies with Baron Rivendare out? Do you get x2 Malorne, or does it just make your deck extra shuffly? I made a 26 legendary deck for shits and giggles (am 2-0 atm... somehow, lol) and am curious.
Gavinmad
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It doesn't really punish you for playing Sylvanas, nobody plays Cairne atm, and the only people who ran Ysera pre-GvG were priests themselves.
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If you guys don't think Ysera is a greedy card then you're just retarded and I'm done with the conversation.
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If you guys don't think Ysera is a greedy card then you're just retarded and I'm done with the conversation.
Morrow
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Depends on your definition of greedy. It has a very high cost for a low immediate impact and a slow return on value. Is that greedy? In some respects, but not in others, and certainly not when considered as the criteria of many other cards that meet similar conditions. Ultra greedy regardless of deck? Don't think so. You make it sound like that though, and I just thought that was a little silly imo. Conversation over, I guess.
Gavinmad
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With way the post-GvG meta is shaping up, there is no deck where Ysera is anything but an incredibly greedy pick where you're hoping to get matched up against other slow control decks. Aggro decks are far from dead and they will punish you for running greedy shit like Ysera.
Gavinmad
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I've watched a LOT of streams since GvG came out, and I just don't see it. Everyone's running him, and mostly he's just a 9/9 for 7. And yeah occasionally the damage from the boom bots makes a big difference. So obviously he's a lot better than a war golem, I just remain to be convinced how much better he is.There is nothing remotely controversial about calling Ysera greedy.
On the other hand, saying you aren't convinced that Dr. Boom is even that good of a card does kinda make me scratch my head.
Famm
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When I first saw Boom before release I just glanced at it and assumed the bots could hit anything on the board including heroes AND that they might explode upon playing the card, in true engineering fashion. It would probably go from auto include to completely dead if they did all that though.
Gavinmad
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No. In fact you should probably cut the bouncing blades without adding Brewmaster, turns out they're pretty bad. Juggernaut isn't very good either.
Siege Engines aren't a bad option at all for budget control warrior.
Angelwatch
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Don't complain, getting a legendary in a 7 win draft is pretty rare. Usually its not even a golden common or rare.
Think of it as a lot of dust!