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Angelwatch
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End of the month so I'm playing Solitaire. In my Druid Dominance Quest, I fought a series of 3 face hunters in a row, mech mage, 3 more face hunters in a row and one last mech mage. Ramp Druid so even if I don't hard counter these decks, it's in my favor. But the fact that the opponent doesn't give a single, solitary, shit about my board except to get bypass taunts is annoying.
Hunter is still the most broken class in the game. Bar none.
Hunter is still the most broken class in the game. Bar none.
That hero power just puts out too much pressure for a non-card source, allowing the hunter to simply play a single 2 or 3-drop per turn and put out as much pressure as decks that play two such cards per turn. The ability to deal 2 per turn no matter what means even your bad draws perform decently, and your great draws are guaranteed wins against every deck in the world.
Gavinmad
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The only one of those changes I agree with, aside from completely redesigning the hunter class from the ground up, is perhaps removing the resummon penalty from freezing trap.
But despite my inability to find a deck to climb with this season, I think this is the best meta we've seen since Undertaker took off.
But despite my inability to find a deck to climb with this season, I think this is the best meta we've seen since Undertaker took off.
Angelwatch
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I definitely could get behind removing the re-summon penalty from Freezing Trap. I'd also consider removing the face damage from Explosive but would need convincing one way or the other. It would also have to take into consideration classes that can attack face (weapons and Druids). I lean towards removing that face damage because it really puts it over the top but it might end up making the trap useless.
Unless they completely redesign Hunter (never going to happen), the Hero Power needs to stay, exactly, as is. It sucks and it's a big part of why the Hunter is such a dumb class but penalizing it for having taunts up is a bad idea.
Unless they completely redesign Hunter (never going to happen), the Hero Power needs to stay, exactly, as is. It sucks and it's a big part of why the Hunter is such a dumb class but penalizing it for having taunts up is a bad idea.
It's a little too convoluted. What's necessary is basically the same thing they did to warlock in order to compensate for a strong hero power: weaker class cards. Instead, hunter has insanely strong class cards.
Angelwatch
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This I agree with in part.
Hunters complain that their Hero Power doesn't affect the board in any manner. They are right and that does need to be taken into account. But no other Hero Power puts you on a "Clock of Doom" the way Hunter's does either.
Taho
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I disagree with this a bit. Sap costs the same mana (2) and lets you choose the minion. Many times the freezing trap ends up benefitting the person who triggered it by allowing them to play a useful battle cry minion again. I personally think it's about right in power. If anything, maybe reduce the resummoning penalty to 1 mana as opposed to 2, but don't eliminate it all together.
In other words, I don't think Freezing Trap is the issue with hunter. Most face/aggro hunters just play Explosive Trap anyway.
Vaclav
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It would be a more difficult thing for them to program - but how about just making the resummon penalty THAT TURN only - so it would still force a delay in efficient reuse but wouldn't modify its cost eternally.
Vaclav
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Since Loatheb exists, possibly not - just playing devil's advocate. Conceptually it should be like the creature is really tied up for a bit, then goes back to normal though - so temporary penalty fits the flavor more.
Sir Funk
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Or how about, you know, making Freezing trap ACTUALLY FREEZE the minion? Why does it sap the minion in the first place? Preventing the minions damage that turn and that player's next turn--as freezing effects are wont to do--sounds like a strong enough ability to me, and doesn't fuck with your board presence. It seems like a moderate change if you're looking at making a change to freezing trap in the first place.
Famm
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Yeah, when you think about it, what the fuck? Freeze...for all intents and purposes destroys the minion on your enemy's turn, and in many cases makes it seem unplayable for the near or total future. Especially if its an ideal minion to trigger with, like a creeper or other two drop. Who want's to spend four to re-summon that shit?
