Hodj Proved Salty: A Tranny's Victory Thread
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The issue @Dom is you're conflating bad evidence and bad faith arguments with valid claims and saying because I won't give them the time of day I'm declaring I am totally closed minded to further evidence.
Good evidence, from qualified people that have the credentials and the experience, with testimony given under oath, is absolutely something I would consider.
No one here is providing that because it would require people like John Bolten and Mike Pompeo to testify and they aren't doing so.
Good evidence, from qualified people that have the credentials and the experience, with testimony given under oath, is absolutely something I would consider.
No one here is providing that because it would require people like John Bolten and Mike Pompeo to testify and they aren't doing so.
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Reporters Should Stop Helping Donald Trump Spread Lies About Joe Biden and Ukraine
By reporting on a conspiracy theory promoted by the president as a political story, with two sides, journalists are helping to weaponize disinformation.
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Since the news broke that Trump repeatedly pressed his Ukrainian counterpart, Volodymyr Zelensky, to open an investigation into Biden, while delaying $250 million in military aid to Ukraine, the president has urged reporters again and again to look instead at the viral conspiracy theory that the former vice president had admitted on camera that he blackmailed Ukraine’s former president.
In fact, as a detailed review of the evidence conducted by The Intercept in May showed, Biden’s intervention in Ukrainian affairs that year, when he successfully pressed Ukraine’s then-president to dismiss a chief prosecutor who had failed to pursue corruption investigations, was no secret and was widely praised by Ukrainian anti-corruption activists and international donors to the country.
The reason there is footage of Biden boasting about this intervention on stage at a public event in 2018 is that he knew he had nothing to hide.
Put simply, there is no evidence to support the conspiracy theory that Trump and his personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani want Ukraine to validate by opening an investigation. Still, it has become an article of faith among Trump supporters that Biden got the chief prosecutor, Viktor Shokin, dismissed to derail a corruption investigation of a Ukrainian firm his son was paid to advise.
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But journalists at leading American news organizations — including CNN, the New York Times, Politico, ABC News, and MSNBC — have helped weaponize this disinformation by repeating the baseless smear over and over, without promptly and accurately conveying that Trump and Giuliani are lying about what the former vice president did in Ukraine. So lies and misinformation have been broadcast nationwide, reaching millions of people who will never read subsequent fact checks debunking them.
This began in May, when Giuliani’s embrace of the conspiracy theory was reported on the front page of the Times, in an article that forced readers to wait until the 19th paragraph to find out that “No evidence has surfaced that the former vice president intentionally tried to help his son by pressing for the prosecutor general’s dismissal.” Even so, the Times politics reporter who interviewed Giuliani, Ken Vogel, claimed on Twitter that this meant “The BIDENS are entangled in a Ukrainian corruption scandal.”
This began in May, when Giuliani’s embrace of the conspiracy theory was reported on the front page of the Times, in an article that forced readers to wait until the 19th paragraph to find out that “No evidence has surfaced that the former vice president intentionally tried to help his son by pressing for the prosecutor general’s dismissal.” Even so, the Times politics reporter who interviewed Giuliani, Ken Vogel, claimed on Twitter that this meant “The BIDENS are entangled in a Ukrainian corruption scandal.”
There would be far less stupidity on this forum if more people actually took time to think before hitting the post button. Also, if you think someone posting 6 times in 6 minutes to one person is normal, or something that is possibe to reply to with any effect, then you're being as dense as he is.
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As I reported at the time, the truth is not that hard to determine. There is little doubt that Biden’s son Hunter did benefit from his father’s position by securing a spot on the board of a Ukrainian natural gas company in 2014, a legal but ethically dubious move. But when Joe Biden subsequently conveyed a threat from the Obama administration to withhold $1 billion in loan guarantees to Ukraine unless the chief prosecutor was dismissed, his intervention made it more rather than less likely that the oligarch who paid his son would be subject to prosecution for corruption.
That’s because one of the most prominent cases of official corruption that Shokin had failed to pursue was against a former environment and natural resources minister, Mykola Zlochevsky, who had oversight of all Ukrainian energy firms, including the largest independent gas company, Burisma, which he secretly controlled through shell companies in Cyprus. After Zlochevsky was forced from office in 2014 — in the popular uprising that toppled a pro-Russian president, Viktor Yanukovych, and forced his political adviser, Paul Manafort, to look elsewhere for work — Burisma appointed Hunter Biden to its board.
That’s because one of the most prominent cases of official corruption that Shokin had failed to pursue was against a former environment and natural resources minister, Mykola Zlochevsky, who had oversight of all Ukrainian energy firms, including the largest independent gas company, Burisma, which he secretly controlled through shell companies in Cyprus. After Zlochevsky was forced from office in 2014 — in the popular uprising that toppled a pro-Russian president, Viktor Yanukovych, and forced his political adviser, Paul Manafort, to look elsewhere for work — Burisma appointed Hunter Biden to its board.
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Its often better to split a long post into multiple smaller ones so people can digest the information more cogently.
Rather than one big fucking long wall of text you get smaller, more easily scannable and digestible information.
It also allows me to organize my thoughts more clearly so I can hit point 1 in one post point 2 in a second so forth.
Like I just did with that article above, posting it in three snippets instead of one huge chunk makes it more readable
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Now stop avoiding the actual issue, and explain why I owe people repeating claims that have been widely refuted and are not credible, the credibility of re opening that box and re examining that evidence.
You are not a stupid person @Dom
You know that is a dishonest tactic done by dissemblers to drag down debate into a circle of ever repeating nonsense that you refute, only to have them deny, then reassert as true, only to be refuted again, only to have them deny it again.
It is beyond a reasonable doubt that this charge against the Biden's is pure distraction and not founded in any rational basis or any factual evidence.
Why do I owe them endless regurgitation of points refuted a thousand times already?
Answer is: I fucking don't owe trolls shit, especially not an endless circular debate on refuted claims.
You are not a stupid person @Dom
You know that is a dishonest tactic done by dissemblers to drag down debate into a circle of ever repeating nonsense that you refute, only to have them deny, then reassert as true, only to be refuted again, only to have them deny it again.
It is beyond a reasonable doubt that this charge against the Biden's is pure distraction and not founded in any rational basis or any factual evidence.
Why do I owe them endless regurgitation of points refuted a thousand times already?
Answer is: I fucking don't owe trolls shit, especially not an endless circular debate on refuted claims.
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Point refuted a thousand times
A point refuted a thousand times, commonly abbreviated as PRATT, and called a canard outside of this website, refers to a point or argument that has literally been refuted so many times that it is not worth bothering with.
A point refuted a thousand times, commonly abbreviated as PRATT, and called a canard outside of this website, refers to a point or argument that has literally been refuted so many times that it is not worth bothering with.
It is a common phrase on Internet forums — as debates have a tendency to go in circles. Once people have refuted a point the first thousand times, it's hard for them to muster the motivation to do it again. It's a very common accusation levied at creationists, who are notoriously unimaginative in what they say.[2] Coincidentally, PRATTs can usually be found coming from prats (British English for "idiots").
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The charge that Joe Biden might have been doing something shady in Ukraine to benefit his son is a PRATT charge and therefore not worth addressing.
Me pointing that out isn't me making a statement that I've closed my mind to evidence. Its a statement that I will not waste my time endlessly refuting a claim already refuted by more credible people in the position to do so, actual authorities on the subject who have said it is of no substance nor merit and therefore unworthy of repeated consideration.
I've already considered it, before this bullshit began, all the evidence they can present I've examined. There's nothing new there. And there is no "there" there with the charge.
I don't owe them shit. I'm not being a religious styled closed mind to say that. I'm being rational, and firm. That is it.
Me pointing that out isn't me making a statement that I've closed my mind to evidence. Its a statement that I will not waste my time endlessly refuting a claim already refuted by more credible people in the position to do so, actual authorities on the subject who have said it is of no substance nor merit and therefore unworthy of repeated consideration.
I've already considered it, before this bullshit began, all the evidence they can present I've examined. There's nothing new there. And there is no "there" there with the charge.
I don't owe them shit. I'm not being a religious styled closed mind to say that. I'm being rational, and firm. That is it.
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just wanna say. I am struggling to keep up and may be wrong. take care pals
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Yes it is, and I'm not going to address your point because it has fuck all to do with anything I've said. Direct your idiotic debate to the people you were having it with. My comment wasn't even about the biden shit, not that you'd know because you flipped your lid and went off on a spastic manic episode.