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It looks fine from a distance. It looks like shit for a couple weeks after they dethatch. I don’t really know if it looks better/worse up close, haven’t really paid attention enough to compare it directly to his neighbors that don’t do it. From across the street there’s no difference to my eyes.

Don’t you only need to do it if it’s so thick it is causing mold / rot type issues?
if you also notice you have "patches" of grass that isn't growing, not thick, (and youre sure it's not disease or dog pee) it's probably thatch that has accumulated, if it hasn't broken down then it's just preventing stuff from getting in there.
 

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It looks fine from a distance. It looks like shit for a couple weeks after they dethatch. I don’t really know if it looks better/worse up close, haven’t really paid attention enough to compare it directly to his neighbors that don’t do it. From across the street there’s no difference to my eyes.

Don’t you only need to do it if it’s so thick it is causing mold / rot type issues?
Ideally you want to take care of it before it gets to the point of mold/rot, but to your point, once a year is probably too frequent to be optimal. I’m not very familiar with dense thatch producing turf grasses. My lawn (such as it is) is mostly centipede with some invading common Bermuda. Neither produce enough thatch for me to consider dethatching. I’ve heard Zoysia and KBG can produce a ton of thatch if you hammer them with nitrogen and really push growth.
 

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This is what I did. I had two stihl saws that are 20 years old and got tired of the starting issues. This ms250 is brand new never used. Bought it a month ago and just now getting around to using it.

Random question @lurkingdirk and Dandai Dandai what safety gear do you wear when using a chainsaw? Apron? Helmet? Steel toe boots? Etc
I know im late to this party. Get Kevlar pants/chaps if you're doing a lot of sawing. Also a metal screen or polycarbonate face shield. Stihl non professional saws come with low kickback chains, but it's no joke. Even with a chain brake.

Also I have 4 Stihl gas saws. (tiny to very big) I run them on either motomix or trufuel 50:1. All of them always start on 3 pulls or less, so maybe it needs adjusting, or you need the dealer to watch you try to start it to see if you're doing something out of sequence.

By the way, a fire chief told me that they use motomix in their saws because they *have* to be reliable when cutting through roofs/walls to rescue people or whatever else they do. Since I switched, I've had zero issues with gummy carbs, stale fuel, and clogged fuel filters.

Be careful.
 
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So I have a 15 year old stihl weed eater I like that uses plastic wire.

Id like something that can clear thicker brush.. Would these metal blade weed eaters be a good option?


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Foler Foler the MS250 should run a 20" bar, maybe a 24. The manual has a compatibility chart. You can fell/buck a pretty big tree with that. If you're looking to fell 4-6 ft diameter hardwoods like white oak you'll need a 36-42" + bar and a much bigger/heavier saw. Stihl 88x series are nice, but monstrously heavy. Not something you'll use alot unless you're clearing a forest.
 
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Foler Foler the MS250 should run a 20" bar, maybe a 24. The manual has a compatibility chart. You can fell/buck a pretty big tree with that. If you're looking to fell 4-6 ft diameter hardwoods like white oak you'll need a 36-42" + bar and a much bigger/heavier saw. Stihl 88x series are nice, but monstrously heavy. Not something you'll use alot unless you're clearing a forest.
I’ve resigned myself to not doing the ridiculously huge trees that are down. I mean I’d need a bobcat just to move the shit after cutting it - I’ll leave it to the pros.

Finished up the clearing I wanted to do with the ms250 yesterday and it did good. Now I just need a brush cutter
 

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Holy fuck yes this is exactly what I need. Thinking of doing the fs 460 since it’s 5 lbs lighter than 560

This is an odd one out of Australia, but there's other ones you could probably find out there

 
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Back to chainsaws fellas.

what is the largest bar you guys would recommend for a non pro chainsawer? Like a guy with no formal training, has experience with 18” bars but CAN learn from YouTube??

Is 24” pushing it on safety?
 

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Back to chainsaws fellas.

what is the largest bar you guys would recommend for a non pro chainsawer? Like a guy with no formal training, has experience with 18” bars but CAN learn from YouTube??

Is 24” pushing it on safety?
Get a 36” pussy.
 
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Back to chainsaws fellas.

what is the largest bar you guys would recommend for a non pro chainsawer? Like a guy with no formal training, has experience with 18” bars but CAN learn from YouTube??

Is 24” pushing it on safety?
did you google yet? this looks like a really good video you should watch
 

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Back to chainsaws fellas.

what is the largest bar you guys would recommend for a non pro chainsawer? Like a guy with no formal training, has experience with 18” bars but CAN learn from YouTube??

Is 24” pushing it on safety?
The bar length isn’t as much of a safety consideration as how aggressive the chain is and how powerful the saw is. Ironically, a longer bar is less dangerous because you have more time to engage the brake before it gets to your body in the event of a kickback. Understanding what causes kickback and how to position your body to have maximum control will be your best safety precaution.

Saws that are powerful enough to handle a 36”+ bar is very expensive for casual home owner use. It’d probably make more fiscal sense to hire out whatever work you’ve got that requires a huge saw like that, especially if you need the debris removed afterwards anyway.
 
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The bar length isn’t as much of a safety consideration as how aggressive the chain is and how powerful the saw is. Ironically, a longer bar is less dangerous because you have more time to engage the brake before it gets to your body in the event of a kickback. Understanding what causes kickback and how to position your body to have maximum control will be your best safety precaution.

Saws that are powerful enough to handle a 36”+ bar is very expensive for casual home owner use. It’d probably make more fiscal sense to hire out whatever work you’ve got that requires a huge saw like that, especially if you need the debris removed afterwards anyway.
Gonna grab a ms261cm with 20” bar and call it a day for now. You’re right, best hire pros for bigger stuff
 

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Gonna grab a ms261cm with 20” bar and call it a day for now. You’re right, best hire pros for bigger stuff
Something to consider with current lumber prices (though they are dropping rapidly) is you may be able to get paid to have trees cut down. This is dependent on location of the trees (do they need a crane and how accessible is it to heavy machinery), volume (number of trees), and potential quality of the lumber. They’re only gonna care about the trunk and slabs/lumber they mill, so you would still need to burn or hire someone to remove the limbs/waste debris. But those details could probably be negotiated.

Borzak Borzak (I think?)would know way more about this than I do, but may not be familiar with Florida operations.
 
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Something to consider with current lumber prices (though they are dropping rapidly) is you may be able to get paid to have trees cut down. This is dependent on location of the trees (do they need a crane and how accessible is it to heavy machinery), volume (number of trees), and potential quality of the lumber. They’re only gonna care about the trunk and slabs/lumber they mill, so you would still need to burn or hire someone to remove the limbs/waste debris. But those details could probably be negotiated.

Borzak Borzak (I think?)would know way more about this than I do, but may not be familiar with Florida operations.
i was watching about bbq and 1 guy will come out to take your tree down for the wood, i think it was for hickory trees

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Whew lads. $1400 for the fs 560 and another $200ish for other blades.

Only a few days wait.