Indiana Jones 5 (2020)

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James Mangold Believes in Indiana Jones, but His Real Hero Is Steven Spielberg

The "Logan" director took on Indiana Jones because his real hero is Steven Spielberg.
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I rewatched Crystal Skull recently and, surprisingly, I thought the first half was decent. Some of the things that get knocked as silly or dumb you can find very easy parallels in the earlier films -- I think there's a bit of a nostalgia bias there (is the life raft parachute or getting the diary signed by Hitler really that much less silly than the fridge or the greaser vs preps fight?).

That said, the second half is pretty terrible still. It looks so bad both with the CGI and the cinematography, it really loses focus on Indy, and Blanchett turned in an awful performance.
 
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DickTrickle said:
I rewatched Crystal Skull recently and, surprisingly, I thought the first half was decent. Some of the things that get knocked as silly or dumb you can find very easy parallels in the earlier films -- I think there's a bit of a nostalgia bias there (is the life raft parachute or getting the diary signed by Hitler really that much less silly than the fridge or the greaser vs preps fight?).

That said, the second half is pretty terrible still. It looks so bad both with the CGI and the cinematography, it really loses focus on Indy, and Blanchett turned in an awful performance.
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It's like making out with a chick, then she whips out her dick.
 
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DickTrickle said:
I rewatched Crystal Skull recently and, surprisingly, I thought the first half was decent. Some of the things that get knocked as silly or dumb you can find very easy parallels in the earlier films -- I think there's a bit of a nostalgia bias there (is the life raft parachute or getting the diary signed by Hitler really that much less silly than the fridge or the greaser vs preps fight?).

That said, the second half is pretty terrible still. It looks so bad both with the CGI and the cinematography, it really loses focus on Indy, and Blanchett turned in an awful performance.
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the opening scene with the teenagers and the military was so classic Lucas that i thought it was going to be a great film. to me it went south with Shia Lebouf as Indy's sidekick. it really should have been shortround back then too. no idea why he was cut off from the franchise after Temple of Doom. he could have succeeded Indy in some manner or even gotten his own spinoff. did anyone find him annoying in ToD?
 
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the opening scene with the teenagers and the military was so classic Lucas that i thought it was going to be a great film. to me it went south with Shia Lebouf as Indy's sidekick. it really should have been shortround back then too. no idea why he was cut off from the franchise after Temple of Doom. he could have succeeded Indy in some manner or even gotten his own spinoff. did anyone find him annoying in ToD?
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Well, I thought he largely left the industry as an actor. IMDB has two acting credits in a nearly 30 year span before 2021.
 
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nearby megaplex going to have 12 showings per day, which rare for a long movie.

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still got a good shot at ending up fresh

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Well, I thought he largely left the industry as an actor. IMDB has two acting credits in a nearly 30 year span before 2021.
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i thought he was doing the Jackie Chan thing and appearing in Chinese films all this time. thats kind of sad. there was no reason why he shouldnt have been casted in other things. i guess he was an 80s novelty like Gedde Watanabe. though, Gedde is still working .
 
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Well, I thought he largely left the industry as an actor. IMDB has two acting credits in a nearly 30 year span before 2021.
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Why Indiana Jones and The Goonies Kid Star Ke Huy Quan Quit Acting for 20 Years: Inside His Return

The Temple of Doom and Goonies star has returned to the big screen with an acclaimed new film after a 20-year acting hiatus
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"It was tough," he says. "I was waiting for the phone to ring, and it rarely did." In the early 2000s, Quan says he made the "very difficult decision" to step away from acting. After graduating from film school at USC, he turned his attention behind the scenes, becoming a successful assistant director and stunt coordinator.

Twenty years later, after watching 2018's Crazy Rich Asians, Quan decided it might be time to return to his first love, acting.

"I was happy working behind the camera but I had serious FOMO," he says with a laugh. "I wanted to be up there with my fellow Asian actors!"

Similar to his beginnings in the business, Quan booked the first role he auditioned for, in the critically acclaimed genre-bending fantasy Everything Everywhere All at Once opposite Michelle Yeoh, in which he plays three versions of one character.

Speaking of which, Quan is still close friends with several members of the Goonies cast like Sean Astin and Corey Feldman, but primarily Jeff Cohen, who fans know as "Chunk." Cohen is now a successful entertainment lawyer who represents Quan, and was of course involved in his contract for Everything Everywhere All at Once.





Chunk is a lawyer!!!!!!!!!
 
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Kind of wild to be out of acting for two plus decades and come back and win an Oscar.
 
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DickTrickle said:
I rewatched Crystal Skull recently and, surprisingly, I thought the first half was decent. Some of the things that get knocked as silly or dumb you can find very easy parallels in the earlier films -- I think there's a bit of a nostalgia bias there (is the life raft parachute or getting the diary signed by Hitler really that much less silly than the fridge or the greaser vs preps fight?).

That said, the second half is pretty terrible still. It looks so bad both with the CGI and the cinematography, it really loses focus on Indy, and Blanchett turned in an awful performance.
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Hats off entertainment has a great vid on where 4 went wrong.

one of his major points is that. 2 movies. first half is ok. second half becomes a cgi nightmare.
development hell was an issue. its not 2 movies, its 4.
indy and the saucer men from mars, then a script rewrite, indy and the city of teh gods. then a script rewrite, then a script rewrite.
The original idea was to make a 50's B sci fi movie with indy. nuc's, commies, and (not giant ants) came from this.
Then more characters were added. then nazi's and more characters were added. etc. attempts to push it back to nazi and serial roots.

points out major plot and script problems from trying to hide Marian being in the movie. it was SUPPOSED to be a big reveal. think about how much that would change the movie if you didn't know going in about Mutt and marian.



personally, I think theres more problems, and am not forgiving on alot of this stuff. tired harrison ford, shia, etc.
I do wonder if the original 50s sci fi idea could have worked.
 
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Indiana Jones was a fine reconstruction of the adventure serials of George Lucas's youth. Doing something new with the franchise by dipping in to the 1950s science fiction genre could have been interesting.
 
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Indiana Jones was a fine reconstruction of the adventure serials of George Lucas's youth. Doing something new with the franchise by dipping in to the 1950s science fiction genre could have been interesting.
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then it should have focused on Roswell more and less on fucking up Mayan history. there were no interdimensional cake eaters there. at least work with the Aztecs who were very close to where Roswell happened and they disappeared mysteriously. there was a story there.
 
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then it should have focused on Roswell more and less on fucking up Mayan history. there were no interdimensional cake eaters there. at least work with the Aztecs who were very close to where Roswell happened and they disappeared mysteriously. there was a story there.
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Instead of Them!

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we'll have nuclear testing causes giant bunnies!

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Could also do Indiana Jones vs Godzilla

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You can hear the unease when Lucas says "And Steven....didn't like that idea." Multiple times.

Spielberg really had to rein in this piece of shit movie. Went as far as actually facepalming while talking about the process.

Spielberg wasn't a guy you argue with about script lightly, and George Lucas overloaded him with so many retarded takes and ideas he had to pick his battles. Spielberg put his foot down on Indy having a daughter instead of a son. Revealing was Spielberg admitting he started saying "yes" to Crystal Skull retarded stuff, only because he envisioned himself never directing the movie and had mentally checked out of taking it serious way back in 1995. Oh sure, some idiot kid will direct this piece of shit movie anyway! I'll start letting Lucas have his sick fun. Yeah, do another rewrite, I'll produce.
 
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Saw Indy 5 today with the wife and kid (kid saw the first four films only last week and loved them).

We all had a good time, wife and I would rank it better than 4 by quite a bit.
 
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Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny will launch this weekend in a massive 4,600 theaters, the widest opening since Jurassic World: Dominion, which debuted in 4,676 locations in June last year, Jones will also hit the record books as the sixth-widest opening of all time
 
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Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny will launch this weekend in a massive 4,600 theaters, the widest opening since Jurassic World: Dominion, which debuted in 4,676 locations in June last year, Jones will also hit the record books as the sixth-widest opening of all time
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I want this movie to bomb and bomb fucking hard.
 
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