Indiana Jones 5 (2020)

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if you believe the speculation/rumors, Kathleen Kennedy's job hinges on the success of this film. if this does well, then you get the Rey Star Wars films and Pheobe Waller Bridge spinoffs of Indy.
 
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I want this movie to bomb and bomb fucking hard.
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Well at least the leaked plot line/ending from months ago ended up being fake, because that shit would have been horrible
 

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Well at least the leaked plot line/ending from months ago ended up being fake, because that shit would have been horrible
are you referring to the reshot ending that Harrison Ford and John Williams talked about? its not fake at all.
 
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In any event, the current ending they used was better and fits better thematically with the earlier story elements
 
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if you believe the speculation/rumors, Kathleen Kennedy's job hinges on the success of this film. if this does well, then you get the Rey Star Wars films and Pheobe Waller Bridge spinoffs of Indy.
Doomcock?

Kathleen has either fucked everyone in Hollywood, or was the Ghislane Maxwell procuring the young starlets, she can #metoo them at will.

Bar a major restructure across Disney including dumping Eiger, she's not going anywhere.
 
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if you believe the speculation/rumors, Kathleen Kennedy's job hinges on the success of this film. if this does well, then you get the Rey Star Wars films and Pheobe Waller Bridge spinoffs of Indy.
I don’t believe this. She has completely ruined multi-billion dollar franchises and nothing has happened. Why would this small in comparison franchise matter and be the final straw?
 
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I don’t believe this. She has completely ruined multi-billion dollar franchises and nothing has happened. Why would this small in comparison franchise matter and be the final straw?
It's the most expensive, she went way over budget on promoting this bridge person and now she has to put up or shut up. I am not saying she gets fired so much as her ability to make more of these girl power films off the corpses of once beloved franchises hangs in the balance. If this is a hit, then expect more of the same. If it fails, then at least we won't get the Rey shit anytime soon.
 
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It's the most expensive, she went way over budget on promoting this bridge person and now she has to put up or shut up. I am not saying she gets fired so much as her ability to make more of these girl power films off the corpses of once beloved franchises hangs in the balance. If this is a hit, then expect more of the same. If it fails, then at least we won't get the Rey shit anytime soon.
What other franchises do they even have left to ruin with girl power? I feel like she’s hit them all.
 
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Chukzombi

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Doomcock?

Kathleen has either fucked everyone in Hollywood, or was the Ghislane Maxwell procuring the young starlets, she can #metoo them at will.

Bar a major restructure across Disney including dumping Eiger, she's not going anywhere.
Wdw pro, camran pashaw however it's spelled. I know she won't be fired, but cutting her ability to perpetuate this trash is the next best thing.
 

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Ahh you mean just continue with the ones she already ruined. Each film plummeted in revenue. Pretty obvious from the numbers that people didn’t like it. Even so, I saw they announced a new Reywars film in the works. Guess no one gives a shit that the numbers keep going down, I guess as long as they get above break even no one cares.
 

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Ahh you mean just continue with the ones she already ruined. Each film plummeted in revenue. Pretty obvious from the numbers that people didn’t like it. Even so, I saw they announced a new Reywars film in the works. Guess no one gives a shit that the numbers keep going down, I guess as long as they get above break even no one cares.
that movie will never happen if this one flops. its probably never going to happen anyway. i mean James Mangold will be in charge of Reywars and and he did Indy 5. Indy 5 craters. you wont be seeing his ass directing a new 450 million dollar tentpole. i still cant believe the money they throw at this shit and it just keeps failing. KK could have a slew of Indy and SW films about different things, but she put all her eggs in one basket with this shit. first new film from Lucasfilm since Rise of Palpatine and its some old man and his caretaker who punches him in the face to get him to magically come back to present day 1969.
 

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Older skewing movie so wouldn't expect it to be super high but this does make it likely it doesn't break out of its expectations.
 

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Won’t be surprised if it doesn’t do well.

Younger people don’t know or care about Indiana Jones. Old fans know the last one sucked. Old fans know KK/Disney sucks. Just doubt there is much interest in it.
 
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i thought he was doing the Jackie Chan thing and appearing in Chinese films all this time. thats kind of sad. there was no reason why he shouldnt have been casted in other things. i guess he was an 80s novelty like Gedde Watanabe. though, Gedde is still working .

That was the whole point of the buzz around him in Everything Everwhere, leading up to the Oscar win. He basically had no adult acting career.
 

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if anyone is curious about this. there is a cam copy in the usual places. its watchable.
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i dont know if i will watch the movie though. i guess i should if i plan to shit on it.
 
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I did it-- I went to the local gazillionplex to see it. I learned quite a few things. The first is that the multiplex don't give 2 shits about what you are buying tickets for-- ironically they give you the option to pick a seat. But then you walk into a large hallway. ticket in hand (with the option to have a ticket "on your phone"). There is a guy behind a podium as you enter a long hallway with multiple movie theaters branching off. That dude checks no one's tickets. I went into the wrong theater, sat through 20 minutes of awful previews. I used to like previews, but that art is gone... the previews were just bad previews for bad movies. Then I realized I was in the Flash, so I went back out into the hallway. Turns out of the 11 theaters in the multiplex they are only playing 4 movies. One of them, Elemental, they don't play at night. So you have choice of Flash, Indiana Jones, Flash, Indiana Jonesl, Little Mermaid and Spiderman.

No worries, I sat through a couple more bad previews and then Indiana Jones. No spoilers, don't worry. The movie has it's moments, for certain. There are dozens of easter eggs and references to the Indiana Jones series. The acting is good. But overall, it's a sad letdown. I really don't get it, either. Top notch cast. Gazillions of dollars invested. Dedicated fan base (who are even willing to forget about Indy 4). There are too many characters will no clear motivations. But, at the end of the film, even though the finale is supposed to be uplifting, I was left with a lingering feeling of pathetiticism. I don't want to leave an Indiana Jones movie like that. I want to be uplifted or enthralled or be enthusiastic. Nope-- a felt a melancholy sadness that great movies just aren't happening.

PS- interesting side-note. Why is the multiplex not showing the Wes Anderson movie? That has to be relegated to art houses? Really?

Finally, it was a mistake for me to see this film in the HD digital cinema. As much as the first few Indiana Jones movies thrilled with practical effects, it is abundantly clear that the stunts and effects in this film are predominantly CGI. Christ, Raiders of the Lost Ark had documentaries made on how they filmed with practical effects. And man, did they work. The CGI stuff, as advanced as it may be, looked (and hence felt) hollow and cheap. And I KNOW they weren't cheap.

The film really didn't achieve on any level. Not on a nostalgia level, not on an action level, and definitely not on a plot level. It just made me kind of sad.
 
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