LachiusTZ
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Guest, it's time once again for the massively important and exciting FoH Asshat Tournament!
Go here and give us your nominations!Who's been the biggest Asshat in the last year? Give us your worst ones!
Shonuff
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My experience working in Corporate America was that minorities get mentored much later in their careers, if at all. My hiring class, the White guys had Mentors day one. It took me years for them to see they had value in me, and to get a Mentor. Other than that, they just left us twisting in the wind trying to figure it out.
They literally just picked the White males with blonde hair and blue eyes to be in charge. Now that the shoe has changed feet, there is an outcry.
Anyway, fuck working for anyone, I make more in a day being self employed than in my two week check at a Fortune 10 company. I make more trading than that pay.
They literally just picked the White males with blonde hair and blue eyes to be in charge. Now that the shoe has changed feet, there is an outcry.
Anyway, fuck working for anyone, I make more in a day being self employed than in my two week check at a Fortune 10 company. I make more trading than that pay.
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LachiusTZ
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TJT
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Did you actively pursue getting a mentor or just wait around until one materialized? I actively sought out mentors... and found them. When I worked in big corporate. So I had 3 in a 6 year stint at a fortune 100.
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Sanrith Descartes
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I would need a chainsaw to cut through something that big.
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Sanrith Descartes
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20+ years working for one of the largest companies on the planet. I used to hear on occasion how the Construction silo wasn't diverse enough. It needed more women. We would then respond that we all agreed, and yet when an internal opening appeared 100% of the resumes were from males. The flaw in their argument is that they failed to consider there are some professions that females don't want to do. Being 30' off the ground up a phone pole on climbers in the heat/cold/rain for 5-6 hours a day placing heavy gauge copper cable apparently did not appeal to females. And as for management openings, its hard to have experience in a Construction organization if you refuse to work in a Construction organization. We were male heavy because only males wanted the jobs. Amazingly enough, our call centers were like 90% female (and 10% gay males) because men generally did not bid those jobs because they did not want a job where they had to raise their hand and ask permission to go to the bathroom.
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Hateyou
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Shonuff
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They didn't advertise it, but followed it to the T for the last century.
I'm not bitter, I'm paid in full doing my own thing. I make more in some months being self employed than I did all year working for corporations. If you are working for someone, you are a sucker anyway. I make more than any of those fuckers do at those companies that were being groomed.
At the end of the day, people that are wealthy know their worth, and the worth of everything around them. I'm not going sit there bringing in 200 million in revenue for that company, and they can barely pay me 90k. I've made over 90k in a month, working half the hours than I did their anyway.
I'm not conversing on this subject any more. It is tangential to investing. If you want to vote with your feet, go ahead. I did the same on CRM when they got too political.
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Hateyou
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This is a big flaw in their system. My company, Talent Acquisition will tell you if you want to do an external hire then you must interview at least one woman and one person of color. They also tell you since you’re in an area that’s 90% white and it’s a technical/maintenance role which women typically don’t apply for so it could take many months to even find an applicant in those categories to interview. Meanwhile a qualified white male that you may want to hire has to wait, typically getting an offer from somewhere else in the meantime.
If you hire internal then you don’t have to follow those rules. So we basically can’t hire external and have to fill technical roles from unqualified internal candidates, hoping we can just train them. You can imagine what a disaster some of our teams are due to years of this.
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Big Phoenix
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Racism is bad, unless it benefits you and your *insert identifiable characteristic* then its fine. Is the irony that you are exactly what you demonize lost here?
True this policy has, but major companies for the past few years now have all been saying they hiring non whites only. Endless "minority/diverse candidates HIGHLY*wink wink* encouraged to apply!" over and over. Or worse saying they are increasing their staffing to X percentage of women/diverse employees when the only thats possible is if you never hire a white person going forward.
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LachiusTZ
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Not gonna lie, it feels good when the one person in the thread I can't stand turns out to be a complete loser faggot.
You brought it up you fucking pair of clown shoes
You brought it up you fucking pair of clown shoes
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Shonuff
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Man, my first three months out of college, they just sat me in a room and gave me no responsibility. It was like they didn't know what to do with me, like I was some sort of senile relative they hid in the attic. The region I was in, they were known for having diversity issues. Everybody else in my hiring class got hired on as a District Manager. They used to tell me my job title was SHIT. Eventually, they were told they couldn't just keep me sitting in the office doing nothing. There were no Mentors, no one talked to me.
Eventually, they were told by their bosses that they couldn't keep up their shitty record with minorities. They gave me an assignment that was a deep dive Accounting issue that was important to the company. They set me up. They purposefully had me present when an Exec VP was coming in, so they could use it as ammo to cut me. It didn't go as planned. My major was in Accounting. When I explained to them how to fix a problem that guys that had been with the company 20 years didn't know, that changed my whole career trajectory. That got me out of that office and into a District as a District Manager on the phone.
From there, I got my own District where I was in complete control, and got to drive 100k vehicles for free. And from there, to an Exec position.
But it always stuck with me the first time I got there, and the Regional Manager says to my face, "I don't think Blacks should be Managers."
Anyway, that was another life, and I make more money on my own than the Senior VP made, and work less hours. Take what you can, learn what you can, and get out. "A salary is what they pay you to make you forget your dreams."
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TJT
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Oh, so you worked at one of the Big 3 like me? I worked at General Motors for 6 years, hired as a software engineer. Despite being a Computer Science graduate who wanted to code shit I got put on some team of "Cognos Developers" who were shockingly incompetent at everything. I sat around doing fuck all there but practicing other stuff and dicking around because I was young and bored. Sought out some mentors on other orgs who could show me if the company was actually doing anything interesting.
I eventually got put on a QA team that I hated, told them I was going to quit and they put me on a slightly more interesting performance engineering team. Sought out other mentors from other orgs but stayed on the performance engineering team. Got bored again and quit a few years later and dramatically improved my career trajectory in under 3 years. Making almost triple what I was at GM and also working less.
Sounds like you faced general adversity that everyone faces and instead decided to cry racism and be a whiney little bitch about it.
Going from 22-year-old college grad hire to an exec in such a short period is by all accounts a meteoric rise. No idea what the fuck you're getting on about.
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Sanrith Descartes
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T was/is a union shop so internal non-management jobs went strictly the most senior test qualified person. Managemt gigs HR could get a lot more fucky with things. If a management job only got male applicants they would on many occasions just cancel the opening and wait two weeks and repost it trying to get new applicants that fit their schema. If women were in the resume pool, the hiring manager "had" to include one women in the interview process. We never included color in resumes and most interviews were over the phone due to distance so race was rarely a consideration. Gender though...
Shonuff
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That's stupid. I have all races working for me. And I've had White Crew Leaders, Hispanic Crew Leaders and Black Crew Leaders. Everybody deserves a chance to do better. I don't just pick somebody arbitrarily based on skin color. Employees all get the same training, we train on skills and management, and they end up being Crew Leaders, or leaving the company, or electing to just be a grunt.
Lets start everyone from the same level of training and Mentorship and see who takes to it.
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"Most" of this is just pandering and if you actually look at their hiring processes you would find none of that shit is actually in writing. I have weekly staff meetings with my HR director in one of the most Lib states in the union. The state will tell you its ok to pander and dance around it, but you can't actually put that shit in writing.