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He's not lying. I do trust him.

One does not preclude the other.

Someone charging 1% to "advise" you to put your money in index ETFs is a scumbag. Welcome to WallStreet. As for lying. Well the whole point of lying is the person you are lying to doesn't know you are lying to them.
 
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UAL deal.

The assistance will include $3.5B in the form of a direct grant and approximately $1.5B in the form of a low interest 10-year senior unsecured promissory note, with an interest rate of 1.00% in years 1 through 5 and the Secured Overnight Financing Rate plus 2.00% in years 6 through 10. UAL will issues warrants to the Treasury Department for up to 4.6M shares.”
The warrants are the real sticky point for investors not named the US Treasury.
 

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Record wide gap opens in U.S. oil futures contracts
Record wide gap opens in U.S. oil futures contracts
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April 20, 2020 9:31AM

(Reuters) - An extreme situation has developed in the U.S. crude oil futures markets, as the current front-month May contract, due to expire Tuesday, has dropped by a whopping 36%, opening up the widest gap between it and the next contract ever, at nearly $11 a barrel.

That gigantic spread CLc1-CLc2 is the result of the shocking fall in demand due to the coronavirus pandemic and glut of global crude supply hitting the markets simultaneously. While oil-producing nations have inked a deal to cut output, those cuts won’t come quickly enough to avoid a massive clog in the next couple of weeks.

As a result, futures traders, who would normally be able to shift from the expiring contract to the next, are finding very few buyers for the expiring May contract, because very few people want to actually take delivery of oil barrels now, leaving it something of an orphan.

As of 08:44 a.m. ET (1244 GMT), the May contract CLc1 was trading down by 36%, or $6.73 a barrel, at $11.50 a barrel, but notably, just 65,000 contracts had changed hands. By contrast, the June contract CLc2 was down by a still-notable $2.90, or 12%, to $22.12 a barrel, but had more than 365,000 contracts traded.

When a futures contract expires, traders have to decide whether to take delivery or roll their positions into an upcoming contract. Usually this process is relatively uncomplicated, but the May contract’s decline reflects worries about an inordinate level of supply hitting the markets - with shipments out of OPEC nations like Saudi Arabia booked in March set to cause a glut.

“The real problem is the cavalry (OPEC-plus cuts) won’t arrive in time to save this oil market. This may prove to be one of the worst deliveries in history. Nobody wants or is in need of oil right now,” said Phil Flynn, senior market analyst at Price Futures Group in Chicago.

The world’s major oil producers agreed to cut production by 9.7 million bpd in an attempt to get world supply under control as demand slumps, but those cuts do not begin until May.

“We are seeing a combination of weak fundamentals for U.S. crude balances as the remaining storage capacity at Cushing of 21 million barrels will be more and more exhausted in the coming weeks,” said Rystad Energy’s Head of Oil Markets Bjornar Tonhaugen.
 

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Someone charging 1% to "advise" you to put your money in index ETFs is a scumbag. Welcome to WallStreet. As for lying. Well the whole point of lying is the person you are lying to doesn't know you are lying to them.

I bet he sells some sick annuities when its time to retire.
 
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I'm thinking we may end up green today. I'm not seeing signs of wholesale panic or algo selling. Oil majors holding on to much of Friday's gains so far.
 
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The big concern is if executed then the Govt will decide they have a say (righlty) in how the company runs. No one wants that.

Terms of the lone are even more generous than I thought the fed would do at least. I'm not against hanging a noose over companies like this. Makes them put paying that loan off as a priority, which is exactly the way it should be.
 

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I'm thinking we may end up green today. I'm not seeing signs of wholesale panic or algo selling. Oil majors holding on to much of Friday's gains so far.

Main thing going for the US is that as bad as it is here, we got our retarded hat to the north taking the real deep dicking in this oil glut. I think there's some restrained optimism in the US companies because canada will probably break first if this keeps up.
 

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IEMG, PPTY, VGK, VIDI

Just glancing at your list. These have done jack shit for years. Hopefully you have tech ETF's.
 

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IEMG, PPTY, VGK, VIDI

Just glancing at your list. These have done jack shit for years. Hopefully you have tech ETF's.
Thanks. I'll do my homework, reevaluate and prob circle in next month with some more questions.
 

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Thanks. I'll do my homework, reevaluate and prob circle in next month with some more questions.
Just remember, hind sight is 20/20. it's easy to point out mistakes. I'm the one who had a good chunk of money in energy mlp's pre war.
 

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I'm going to sit back a bit again. Much like a lot of people. I spent a little over 60% of the cash I had on hand. Which was like $80k or so. So far it was good spending.
 
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That's what I struggle with. Cash is trash now. .01% doesn't cut it. So I am taking more risk than I have for years. Just like every jackass, I needed a good wallop to pay attention.
 

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Praying for a reverse head and shoulders, in KIM, BRX, WRI, grocery strip malls.
 

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That's what I struggle with. Cash is trash now. .01% doesn't cut it. So I am taking more risk than I have for years. Just like every jackass, I needed a good wallop to pay attention.

.01%? Are you talking savings rates? Please tell me you arent using a crap bank savings account versus a high yield 1.5%+ account!
 

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.01%? Are you talking savings rates? Please tell me you arent using a crap bank savings account versus a high yield 1.5%+ account!

My govies fund is at 1.3% yield currently, which is as low as its ever been, but better than 0%.
 

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.01%? Are you talking savings rates? Please tell me you arent using a crap bank savings account versus a high yield 1.5%+ account!

Fidelity money markets. I know there are some bank deals out there.