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Jysin

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It's got a long way to go to prove itself. But, a bit of good timing on the V bottom. Daily looks nice if we close up here.

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Blazin

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It s a good sign, they took it to the brink, which is why I posted. If it didn't hold that was going to get ugly. Now nice bullish tail.


Looking at TLT isn't going to be something if we finish December with it at or near its 52 wk lows. I'm going to take a stab at it if we get a double bottom with decent size (probably couple hundred k)
 
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Looking at TLT isn't going to be something if we finish December with it at or near its 52 wk lows. I'm going to take a stab at it if we get a double bottom with decent size (probably couple hundred k)
I have a starter position in TLT as well. 2% down on my ~91.73 CB.

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Daidraco

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The thing about PLTR, arriving late to the party anyways... I have to go all the way back to Feb through August to see any kind of realistic pattern. Like if it got down to 21 a share, I would feel confident that that was around the floor. Or, in other words, safe to buy into then. Sort of like Verizon hovering around $40/share is safe to buy in at, usually. But PLTR is at fkn 61, and could go higher? But then the world is falling apart at the same time?

Shit man... Im open to giving advice to anyone on real estate and have been doing so for a while on here. But Stocks Im still learning if anyones open to it. Bringing Verizon up again, I bought yesterday at 40.18, and sold this morning at 41.31 as it was going down from its high of 41.40. For the 800 shares I bought into it, a $904 dollar turn around was a clean sweep.. in my book, at least.
 
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Sanrith Descartes

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The thing about PLTR, arriving late to the party anyways... I have to go all the way back to Feb through August to see any kind of realistic pattern. Like if it got down to 21 a share, I would feel confident that that was around the floor. Or, in other words, safe to buy into then. Sort of like Verizon hovering around $40/share is safe to buy in at, usually. But PLTR is at fkn 61, and could go higher? But then the world is falling apart at the same time?

Shit man... Im open to giving advice to anyone on real estate and have been doing so for a while on here. But Stocks Im still learning if anyones open to it. Bringing Verizon up again, I bought yesterday at 40.18, and sold this morning at 41.31 as it was going down from its high of 41.40. For the 800 shares I bought into it, a $904 dollar turn around was a clean sweep.. in my book, at least.
My selling my shares in the low 50's was with the full knowledge I may not see a reentry in a long time.
 

Blazin

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PLTR isn't going to just suddently crash, at least not likely to. It will decline on an earnings report and probably a good one but their growth simply can't slow, 25-30% Rev growth is a nice metric and it's absolutely not enough to keep the stock at this level. The moment the growth peaks it will take a hair cut to a more reasonable valuation you know like 10-15x sales and a 80-100 PE. We talked about SNOw today , the $400+ stock. It was growing faster than PLTR at its peak and then it slowed. Same thing happened to TSLA with model 3 numbers. It's the same story over and over with the same result.

Investors are looking for 50%+ YoY growth at minimum with a move to this level. The speculative part of it is that maybe they can deliver those kind of numbers, but hyper growth stocks pretty much always overshoot.

If stocks can return consistent long term growth above average, like amazon did for so many years, they will never be cheap. But PLTR could drop by 60% and not even be int he ballpark of "cheap" by pretty much any metric.
 
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Blazin Blazin would you give me a brief analysis on RKLB plz? Like how their growth projection looks, pricing etc? Not a deep dive or anything - just the basics like interpreting PE ratio, growth, etc
 

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Blazin Blazin would you give me a brief analysis on RKLB plz? Like how their growth projection looks, pricing etc? Not a deep dive or anything - just the basics like interpreting PE ratio, growth, etc
It has little of those things to analyze it's a speculative wall street bets type stock. They are not profitable, quite far from it, so there is no PE. They have 300M in revenue and a 9+B evaluation. Rev growth is just starting. This has people excited about what the company could become. Cash flow and cash on hand are a little concerning, however I think they could easily raise money and to loop back to concerning if they do so with stock sales it will dilute existing share holders but at this evaluation its probably a better source of cash than borrowing.

It's too speculative for me to be of much use, this a company still in the very speculative camp. Any financial metric you look at it will be so eye poppingly scary it is of little value. They have customers, they have a launch schedule so that means they are head of previous space silliness like virgin. Their backlog of revenue should mean that the next 4-5 quarters should be good reports and in line to expectations. It's hard for a space company to "surprise" because everyone has full transparency on their launches. The next rocket version is going to determine the next stage of this company. Big success and the stock triples in the coming years.

What's tough with these plays is they abuse the heck out of you as a shareholder, they will be flinging stock options around like candy to attract talent and they will use their stock as a source of cash but if things are going well enough the stock can overcome those headwinds.

I personally hate this is stock #1 amongst reddit retards. If you want some sort of yardstick for expectations, I would just go back through and look at SPace X valuations during different funding rounds and where they were operationally at that time.

While we are in a fervor of euphoria and speculation right now (like early 2021) I still think it's reasonable for risk takers to believe this could become a 30-50B company at some point.
 
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Asshat Foler

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It has little of those things to analyze it's a speculative wall street bets type stock. They are not profitable, quite far from it, so there is no PE. They have 300M in revenue and a 9+B evaluation. Rev growth is just starting. This has people excited about what the company could become. Cash flow and cash on hand are a little concerning, however I think they could easily raise money and to loop back to concerning if they do so with stock sales it will dilute existing share holders but at this evaluation its probably a better source of cash than borrowing.

It's too speculative for me to be of much use, this a company still in the very speculative camp. Any financial metric you look at it will be so eye poppingly scary it is of little value. They have customers, they have a launch schedule so that means they are head of previous space silliness like virgin. Their backlog of revenue should mean that the next 4-5 quarters should be good reports and in line to expectations. It's hard for a space company to "surprise" because everyone has full transparency on their launches. The next rocket version is going to determine the next stage of this company. Big success and the stock triples in the coming years.

What's tough with these plays is they abuse the heck out of you as a shareholder, they will be flinging stock options around like candy to attract talent and they will use their stock as a source of cash but if things are going well enough the stock can overcome those headwinds.

I personally hate this is stock #1 amongst reddit retards. If you want some sort of yardstick for expectations, I would just go back through and look at SPace X valuations during different funding rounds and where they were operationally at that time.

While we are in a fervor of euphoria and speculation right now (like early 2021) I still think it's reasonable for risk takers to believe this could become a 30-50B company at some point.
Thanks for weighing in. I didn’t realize RKLB got picked up by Reddit WSB. Looks like that’s been the last few months.

Seems like it’s the kind of thing I should only put money into that I’m willing to absolutely lose.
 

Blazin

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Thanks for weighing in. I didn’t realize RKLB got picked up by Reddit WSB. Looks like that’s been the last few months.

Seems like it’s the kind of thing I should only put money into that I’m willing to absolutely lose.
It's more than picked up by them this is the current GME apes strong and we're all gonna be rich and shit.
 
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