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Khane

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Sanrith... SPACs give SPACs a bad name. Do you really not understand the point of reverse mergers and the entirety of what Special Purpose Acquisition Company means?

They do the same goddamn thing that Chinese companies do to infiltrate American markets.

"Special Purpose Acquisition Company"... they don't even attempt to hide it.
 

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Sanrith... SPACs give SPACs a bad name. Do you really not understand the point of reverse mergers and the entirety of what Special Purpose Acquisition Company means?

They do the same goddamn thing that Chinese companies do to infiltrate American markets.

"Special Purpose Acquisition Company"... they don't even attempt to hide it.
I would venture that I understand SPACs pretty well.
 

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By reverse merger do you mean inversion?
Inversion is usually applied to a US company acquiring a (usually much smaller) foreign based company and then the incorporation is shifted so that the company is now based not in the US but in the acquired company's home country. Usually this happens in tax friendly places like Ireland. No longer being incorporated in the US means it isnt paying US taxes.

SPACs are created for the purpose of merging with a private company to take it public via a route that isnt an IPO. The SPAC goes public, puts its initial investment capital into escrow and then finds a private company to merge with. The private company becomes a publicly traded company via this process and the escrow money from the SPAC is given to the private company as a purchase price for a stake in the new company.
 

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So then what's the with the "They give SPACs a bad name" comment? That is the entire point of SPACs....
Correct me if I am wrong, but arent you the one who was telling us options are bad and nothing but gambling?
 

Khane

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No, I said derivatives are generally horseshit thought up by people looking to get rich off of other people's stupidity and that Wall Street in general, is full of crooks.

But keep preaching about RH and WSB "idiots" while you make the same plays they do day in and day out because you use them for info but "you're way smarter bro"
 

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No, I said derivatives are generally horseshit thought up by people looking to get rich off of other people's stupidity and that Wall Street in general, is full of crooks.

But keep preaching about RH and WSB "idiots" while you make the same plays they do day in and day out because you use them for info but "you're way smarter bro"
Can you show us on the chart where the financial advisor touched you?

Seriously though, I support whatever investing strategy makes you money while simultaneously letting you feel good about life. Different strokes and all that stuff.
 
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The problem seems to be that most people take criticism of the systems at play personally. My opinion of the American financial system is a "hate the game, not the player" type of thing. I do not like how easy it is for bad actors to take advantage of and even create tools to suck wealth from ordinary people. With generally very little meaningful oversight. There isnt much there to stop said bad actors and generally when they are caught they get a monetary slap on the wrist that is peanuts in comparison to the spoils of their malpractice.

In simple terms I believe a lot of the finance sector looks entirely past actual, legitimate investment in favor of generating wealth, at any cost.
 
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My company invested close to half a million dollars when we moved to a new place 2 years ago. We took the whole floor of a building, around half a football field in area, and they installed new floors, new adjustable desks, new chair new everything for everyone....

Now it has been empty for 10 months now.
The company is 100% virtual.
 
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The problem seems to be that most people take criticism of the systems at play personally. My opinion of the American financial system is a "hate the game, not the player" type of thing. I do not like how easy it is for bad actors to take advantage of and even create tools to suck wealth from ordinary people. With generally very little meaningful oversight. There isnt much there to stop said bad actors and generally when they are caught they get a monetary slap on the wrist that is peanuts in comparison to the spoils of their malpractice.

In simple terms I believe a lot of the finance sector looks entirely past actual, legitimate investment in favor of generating wealth, at any cost.
This will be my only comment in this thread on this because it is more political than financial. Simply put, I agree with you on most points. As I mentioned in another thread, corruption is corruption, I view it absolute terms not shades. This is why I laugh at the "we have race issues" mantra. We have wealth issues, not race issues. I grew up a dirt poor white kid in the south. I am now neither dirt poor nor in the South. White collar criminals get away with shit because they have wealth, not because of skin color. I see the finance game rigged not because it is blatantly broken, but because of the absolute dearth of financial education we promote in our schools. People should not be graduating high school without understanding interest and interest rates, the time value of money, what the financial system is, being able to at least spell the word macroeconomics etc. We keep the poors dumb and financially uneducated for a reason.

Back on topic...
I did some looking into Blazin Blazin 200DMA research. Below is the 1 year chart on the Nasdaq. At Friday's close we sit 23.1% above the 200 DMA. on 10/12 we hit 21.3% above the 200 DMA and then pulled back almost 1000 points (about 10%) over the course of the next couple of weeks. On 9/2 we hit 29.2% above the 200 DMA and then pulled back about 1500 points (about 12.5%) over the next couple of weeks with a sharper initial drop down. Note the 10/12 date was also in the run-up to the election as a mitigating factor.

What does it mean? Well we are currently over-extended as Blazin said. But we ran all the way up to 29% above back in September before we pulled back and corrected. If we make it to that same level before correcting it would push the Nasdaq up to around the 13,000 mark. So what does it say to me? Well, we are in pull-back territory, but its a pretty big territory and greed/interest free money/cash on the sidelines/stimulus bill etc could easily push us up another 500 points on the Nasdaq before we come to a screeching halt. With end of year harvesting/financial managers looking to lock in gains for their bonuses/rebalancing coming I think we might run another week or two max before we take a dive back down to 11,500 or so (maybe back to 10,500 if people get real skittish). Oh, and yeah about that election thing still dragging on...

edit: I also think the farther up we run from here the more violent and steep the correction will be. If we start correcting today I can see it be a generally smooth downward shift. If we keep running up until Christmas Eve then it could be express elevator time.

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I bit the bullet and was assigned my 3 PLTR puts at 27, just couldn't find a good roll so I figured I'd just take the shares and do calls. Opened covered calls @ 30 strike for .35 a share
 
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Fogel

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Also refreshed weekly puts on PINS and SNAP, they've been a good source of .5-1% premium return and have had consistent gains the last month+
 
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Also refreshed weekly puts on PINS and SNAP, they've been a good source of .5-1% premium return and have had consistent gains the last month+
As Blazin mention previously, the markets are getting over-extended and a pullback should be in the works at some point in the near future. Make sure to factor that into your put positions.
 
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LachiusTZ

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Today looks like a good day to take profits...

But the hog in me is screaming "LET IT RIDE!"
 

LachiusTZ

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Sold about 10% of my play money...

Tempted to move my TSP out of the market