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For the broad market, this doesn't seem to hold true. So what are they trying to hint at? Are there plenty of overvalued companies? For sure.

This just seems like another Zero Hedge panic article.
ZeroHedge is bear pron. It doesn't make data any less valid. I read as much shit as I can find and I read it from all views. Bubbles happen. Melt-ups happen. ZH isn't the only one thinking we are in a bubble. Lots of other folks do as well. Reading shit like this keeps me asking myself questions and doesn't allow me to get complacent. Note: I am one of the guys here still looking for decent entry points on some stocks and not considering fleeing to cash until after the election. It never hurts, though, to look at it through a different lens.
 

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For no particular reason. I'm old and was talking to someone today about how the local news used to have a few minutes each night about the stock price close of local companies like Exxon, Honeywell, Shaw etc...Pre internet of course.

I remember once when I was a teenager or yearly 20's, can't remember and for some reason got interested in stocks for a short period and my go to was to look in the actual newspaper and scan the stocks they choose to show!
 

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I was reading back through this thread over the weekend, specifically about options. Blazin Blazin , you mentioned you focus on selling puts. I was reading on strategies around that and was just curious on if you'd share yours? What I gather is you collect premiums on stocks that you think are long term bullish but may dip below the strike price in the short term, so you're basically double dipping: Collecting a premium on a stock that you would have put in a limit order for anyway if it had a small dip. Are you doing cash covered puts or naked puts? Thanks for any info
 

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I remember once when I was a teenager or yearly 20's, can't remember and for some reason got interested in stocks for a short period and my go to was to look in the actual newspaper and scan the stocks they choose to show!
Wow, I remember that shit. Scanning the 2 or 3 pages of all the stocks in the NYSE and seeing their changes. I also remember having some class in middle school where we had to track a stock for like a month or two to see how it did.
 

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I was reading back through this thread over the weekend, specifically about options. Blazin Blazin , you mentioned you focus on selling puts. I was reading on strategies around that and was just curious on if you'd share yours? What I gather is you collect premiums on stocks that you think are long term bullish but may dip below the strike price in the short term, so you're basically double dipping: Collecting a premium on a stock that you would have put in a limit order for anyway if it had a small dip. Are you doing cash covered puts or naked puts? Thanks for any info
Not going to presume what Blaz will say but what you mention is the strat I use. Selling Puts on stocks I would be willing to own and if they dont exercise I bank the premium and if they do exercise then I own the stock at a price I like. There is still risk involved (the stock keeps tanking) but if my research is good it "shouldn't" happen.
 
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Wow, I remember that shit. Scanning the 2 or 3 pages of all the stocks in the NYSE and seeing their changes. I also remember having some class in middle school where we had to track a stock for like a month or two to see how it did.
I used to do this back in the day because I was gifted some Walgreens stock from my grandma who worked for them.
 
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I was reading back through this thread over the weekend, specifically about options. Blazin Blazin , you mentioned you focus on selling puts. I was reading on strategies around that and was just curious on if you'd share yours? What I gather is you collect premiums on stocks that you think are long term bullish but may dip below the strike price in the short term, so you're basically double dipping: Collecting a premium on a stock that you would have put in a limit order for anyway if it had a small dip. Are you doing cash covered puts or naked puts? Thanks for any info

I only sell puts on names I want to own and at strikes that I want to own them. Investors often look at a stock and say I would buy that at X then sit and wait. By selling puts on that stock I'm participating in it's upside even if it never dips to my price or I get the stock at the price I wanted plus the premium.

The danger is that the price falls below the strike and you enter the position in the red. I don't see that as a being a danger of the option in itself but rather general risk of investing. You would not have had the opportunity to take advantage of that lower price unless you were being dishonest with yourself about I want to own a stock at X price. So I think people who are able to do an above average job of removing emotion from investing it's a suitable strategy.

In practical terms many investors say they want a dip then when that dip comes they are frozen by current headlines and don't act. I view selling puts as one notch down on the risk curve versus just owning the equity. I'm always doing it but during times that I'm more cautious I'm selling more puts and buying less equity. When I am highly bullish like this summer the majority of my portfolio was stocks, as I've entered a period of more cautious stance (Sept/Oct) I have sold more puts and hold less equity.

There are certain companies that I trade around, these include JPM, JNJ, WMT, KO, PFE, VZ, DIS and then I also trade index such as QQQ, SPY and IWM. I may hold them for a pretty long period, they may go through a time I'm just selling puts on them, and periods I'm holding them and selling calls against them.

My trading plan has worked very well in this environment, I'm at a portfolio high today and have solid returns for Sept in a down market, all without shorting the market (which I don't do).

A big step for me was getting rid of fear, the names I trade you can't shake me out of. I don't sell for a loss, I do occasionally roll an expiring option that may be in the red. Getting caught for me simply means owning some stock that I will continue to trade around. I certainly have at times had positions that I didn't like, I tend to be patient selling calls sometimes for months reducing my net cost until reaching an acceptable exit point.

Just this weekend someone paid me $1,000 in premium Friday that the market wouldn't drop 5% over the weekend, and I'm glad to help them sleep at night.
 
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I just bought more PLTR at $9, they took out a lot of stops at $9. Will watch if it can bounce off this level with the weak hands off the ride.. I've only made 2 of 4 intended purchases so far, current cost basis is $9.375. I am open to it dropping another 10-20% yet. Full position will still be 1% of portfolio so not really concerned either way. It's just an outside bet on a 10x over next 5-7yrs.
 
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I'm currently at 9.63 cost basis in PLTR and have been buying chunks at 9 the last few days, slowly lowering my original cost at opening day of 10. I'm going to try to hold LONG term on the outside chance I can have one of those "oh I bought <insert famous stock here> on the ground floor" stories.

You know the best part of buying a lottery ticket? The day dreaming you get to do as you walk out of the convince store about all the fabulous things you will do when it strikes.

Someone make me a gif of diamond gloved michel jackson hands holding Saruman's Palantir. Thats me.
 
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So I've decided that I want to learn more about bonds. Does anyone have any suggested reading regarding bond investments strategies? I'm pretty comfortable with how I would position to hedge against inflation but I still don't really understand how to do so against deflation and I think that bonds are a big part of that.

I've been listening to this fella Steven Van Metre who calls himself the bond king and he's piqued my interest. However I don't entirely understand how bond trading really works in a practical sense. Like do people buy specific bonds, or something like TLT? What factors determine bond price vs coupon rate? I know people buy bonds and sell them to others before maturity, how does this process work from the standpoint of the buyer and seller? What are they looking for in a 'good' deal?

Really just the very basics of bonds would be great. Googling it has mostly fed me over simplified answers and I'd like to dive a bit deeper.
 

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Just transferred some more cash into my account. Probably going to buy up some Palantir when it clears.
 

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Options available for PLTR now.

Two new option listings and three option delistings on October 6th (TheFlyOnTheWall)
QUOTES AS OF 04:10:00 PM ET 10/05/2020
New option listings for October 6th include Chinook Therapeutics Inc (KDNY) and Palantir Technologies Inc(PLTR) (Class A Stock) (PLTR). Option delistings effective October 6th include Aduro Biotech Inc(ADRO) , TD Ameritrade Holding Corporation(AMTD) , and Noble Energy Inc(NBL) .
 

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Stupid question time...

How is he actual economy doing?
Unemployment national rate down to 7.9%
GDP still in the toilet.

This link will answer most of your questions.

 
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Early option action on PLTR

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can't say I understand options, calls, etc yet. What is the option market telling us about PLTR?
 

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can't say I understand options, calls, etc yet. What is the option market telling us about PLTR?
Top right shows its directionally bullish. Basically the little option action is focused on the strike price of 10$ which is about 10% above its current price. I expect as more people start playing options it should even out some. This is very little in the way of contracts to judge it at this point.

Some folks are buying the calls betting the stock goes above $10 and the sellers are betting it might rise, just not above $10 by the dates.
 

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I'm still amazed at the volume its getting each day, dwarfing almost everything else on the list I follow. A lot of interest around the stock but SOMETHING is holding it back..
 

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Stupid question time...

How is he actual economy doing?
It's honestly hard to say. We have millions of small businesses being propped up by the government at the moment. People's routines and habits have been fundamentally changed by COVID. Even if COVID were to disappear today, the world is a different place now than it was 8 months ago. It's difficult to see exactly where we'll settle when we finally get past COVID. Has the business of "business travel" effectively been destroyed? That would have a huge impact on several industries (airlines, hotels, oil, restaurants). We just don't really know how things will shake out in the end.
 

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Job separations fall to 4.6m from 5m in Aug
Hiring rises to 5.9m
Job openings fall from 6.7m to 6.49m
Trade deficit climbs to 67.1b