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Blazin

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Sold puts on DKNG here 10/29 exp
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Pogi.G

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I finally figured out I need to not short it (for a few days anyway). $1,500 simulated profits (on 100k) in 31 minutes today. Yeah, I had to divorce fundamentals from technicals, because technically, it keeps getting stronger. Been trying to short it since it was 700 a few weeks ago.

The reason why I've had problems with day trading it, is that if you get confirmation of a short signal, it reverses quicker than you can react.

No more trading for me for the day, not one losing trade. Not doing real trades, I'm all in on investments and swing trades.

Scalping seems to always work better for me.

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I am still a firm believer that Tesla is retardedly over valued, and yet, a true short position is to risky of a play right now; however, puts out to end of 1st quarter to beginning of second quarter are viable. I fully expect the Hertz hype to die off by then, and should return to sub $800 and may even go lower. Hell, Tesla won't even be able to fill the order with the chip shortage.

Just my 2c...
 

Fogel

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DIS finally showing some life, flirting with 173. Would like to see it hit 175 this week and sell my calls.
 
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Shonuff

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I am still a firm believer that Tesla is retardedly over valued, and yet, a true short position is to risky of a play right now; however, puts out to end of 1st quarter to beginning of second quarter are viable. I fully expect the Hertz hype to die off by then, and should return to sub $800 and may even go lower. Hell, Tesla won't even be able to fill the order with the chip shortage.

Just my 2c...
Mike Santoli on CNBC said its being pushed up by tons of bullish call options, but they expire on Friday. Might be an opportunity to short.
 
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Tmac

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Mike Santoli on CNBC said its being pushed up by tons of bullish call options, but they expire on Friday. Might be an opportunity to short.

FWIW, you've lamented several times in the past week that shorting TSLA is a bad idea.
 

Shonuff

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FWIW, you've lamented several times in the past week that shorting TSLA is a bad idea.
Go back, re-read my posts, I said it was bad for shorting for now. Hell, I stopped trading today, but its fallen 50 a share in the last 30 minutes. Whenever these companies go parabolic, its more like are fattening them up for the kill.

Seen TSLA drop 300 a share very quickly multiple times. There will be a time when you will make a shitload on the way down. There are 53 new EV models on the way by various manufacturers. The stock is worth 300. The company's quality scores are dead last. The government just put self driving on hold (Queen Cathie says a good portion of TSLA's valuation comes from it). The company makes more money on carbon credits and bitcoin trades than it does from its actual cars (not good earnings quality). The company is trading at an insane 295 times earnings!

In the end, fundamentals win. Look at GME and AMC. Shorts got killed on the way up, but some shorts made 50% returns on the way down.

tldr version: I think there are too many paperhands owning TSLA
 
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Shonuff

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TMAC, there are still opportunities to short TSLA, but I made my money in 31 minutes. 1.5% in a day, I usually call it quits before I start making mental mistakes.

Its just pure MOMO right now, but I bet that fades towards the end of the week. Hell, its come down 60 a share in the last 40 minutes.

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LachiusTZ

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I am still a firm believer that Tesla is retardedly over valued, and yet, a true short position is to risky of a play right now; however, puts out to end of 1st quarter to beginning of second quarter are viable. I fully expect the Hertz hype to die off by then, and should return to sub $800 and may even go lower. Hell, Tesla won't even be able to fill the order with the chip shortage.

Just my 2c...

Don't they make those in house?
 

Shonuff

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So...thoughts on FB at this level? Under the 200 moving day average. Not really concerned about the morals of the company, just the fundamentals. edit: looks like the stock is breaking down
 
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Big Phoenix

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Man, someone is getting paid shorting TSLA today. I don't trade this late in the day (normally).

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See what happens when you give up, every god damn time. Also gotta love that stability for a trillion dollar company. One second it jumps up 5%, next its down 1%.
It's beginning to look like none of the analysts bothered to factor in the supply chain fiasco into the earnings estimates. I would expect every company that depends on supply chains (non tech software companies) to miss estimates. It could be ugly and at the same time present long term buying opportunities. Keep an eye on backlogs. That will tell you the amount of orders they have pent up.

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Guess they didnt want Intel to feel all alone;

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Shonuff

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I didn't give up on Tesla, its just any day I make 1.5% and 100% of my trades are perfect, I walk away. Even if its only in 15 minutes. Been doing this awhile now, 1-1.5% is as good is it gets, given the volatility I trade with.
 

Jysin

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Shonuff Shonuff Glad youre making your TSLA trades work, but for your long term sanity, trade something rational. Daytrading successfully is about buying and selling at technical levels, but when you're playing with these meme stocks and stuff like TSLA, its far more difficult to get any kind of read.

The very simple play today was the FB short.

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It's now given up it's 200D and looking pretty rough. Far easier to trade something like this than Tesla.
 
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