rhinohelix
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Guest, it's time once again for the massively important and exciting FoH Asshat Tournament!
Go here and give us your nominations!Who's been the biggest Asshat in the last year? Give us your worst ones!
RobXIII
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This is why the TV / Movie forum is dangerous. Next think you know, these bastards are going to tell me how Titanic ends, or even spoiler Passion of the Christ on us :*(
Mudcrush Durtfeet
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Lol, no it's not. Information can totally be destroyed. Energy is what cannot be destroyed.
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Burns
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Afaik, in quantum physics, the energy is what keeps the information. With enough computing power, you can calculate how that energy (the particle that caries it) got to the state it is in. So the terms can be used interchangeably, for casual conversation.
(Edit: after watching the video again, that maybe sounds a little too simplistic. Conservation of information and conversation of energy are different but work in similar (extremely math heavy) ways).
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Mudcrush Durtfeet
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Let's not move the goalposts. The original post did not specify quantum. To provide an example, any 'information' that passes into a black hole is lost forever when the thing evaporates (if not before).
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If we understand things properly (if), protons will eventually decay and the only things left in the universe are quarks and photons. Good luck to the aliens.
Burns
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Well that's kinda the thing with theoretical physics, and there are other videos that refer to the conservation of information, including the ones on black holes. Hawking radiation is supported, but since nothing beyond the event horizon is actually known, it does not necessarily mean the information is destroyed.
Mudcrush Durtfeet
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An evaporated black hole turns all the mass inside into unorganized Hawking Radiation. Information go bye-bye.
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Burns
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That is not necessarily the case. There is no unified theory of physics and a whole slew of unknown physics could be happening behind the event horizon of a black hole.
Conservation of information is a law and hawking radiation is widely accepted, leading to the black hole information paradox. To quote the following video:
"There is no such things a true paradox (in physics), a deeper understanding (that we don't have yet) of general relativity or of quantum field theory must resolve this."
A more in depth video on the paradox:
One funny possible (theoretical) solution (holographic principle):
They have a bunch of videos going over theoretical physics and reference the Information paradox in other videos, as well.
Lumi
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Amazing show. The people that wouldn't watch it because of the animation style are fucking morons.
Couple of weird things tho that had me scratching my head.
A) There was no reason whatsoever for Cecil to send Demon dude back to Hell. Was pretty dumb and didn't like that.
B) Why didn't that Lion dude that Machinehead hired that single handedly wrecked Invincible and most of the others ever try and match up vs Omniman. Out of everyone the show introduced that dude seemed like the only one that would have a chance and yet we never see him again.
C) Why didn't Invincible go into rage mode ever again like he did episode 2 or 3 when he saw Atom Eve being attacked. Was kinda waiting for him to go Super Saiyan again at some point altho I guess it could be something that occurs later in the series.
Couple of weird things tho that had me scratching my head.
A) There was no reason whatsoever for Cecil to send Demon dude back to Hell. Was pretty dumb and didn't like that.
B) Why didn't that Lion dude that Machinehead hired that single handedly wrecked Invincible and most of the others ever try and match up vs Omniman. Out of everyone the show introduced that dude seemed like the only one that would have a chance and yet we never see him again.
C) Why didn't Invincible go into rage mode ever again like he did episode 2 or 3 when he saw Atom Eve being attacked. Was kinda waiting for him to go Super Saiyan again at some point altho I guess it could be something that occurs later in the series.
Cybsled
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The best analogy I've heard is Lion Dude (Battlebeast) showing up at that fight is like a street thug bringing Thanos to a back alley brawl. He peaced out when he didnt get the challenge he wanted. He probably didnt know about Omniman.
As for Invincible, they're basically Saiyans so think Gohan: If Gohan gets pissed he does massive damage, but it takes a lot for him to get to that rage point. That scene was basically like that scene in DBZ when Videl was getting her ass kicked by those Majin dudes and Gohan can't control his rage. But outside of that, Gohan usually is pretty chill.
As for Invincible, they're basically Saiyans so think Gohan: If Gohan gets pissed he does massive damage, but it takes a lot for him to get to that rage point. That scene was basically like that scene in DBZ when Videl was getting her ass kicked by those Majin dudes and Gohan can't control his rage. But outside of that, Gohan usually is pretty chill.
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Kovaks
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It is really good, I went ahead and read through the whole series after since I couldn't wait.
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