IT/Software career thread: Invert binary trees for dollars.

Noodleface said:

I don't know where you've worked with Indians but every single one I've worked with has worn sandals and no socks

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Frenzied Wombat said:

Indians have poor work ethic fueled by the fact that they take zero pride in their work. They are the assembly line workers of the coding world, and seemingly have zero ability to apply their intelligence/knowledge in any way that resembles creative thought or thinking outside the box. Give them *exactly* what you need built, without a single assumption being made, and you may end up with what you wanted albeit inefficiently coded. Make a single assumption based out of common sense, and you'll likely end up with a steaming pile of shit. I'm told the way Indians are taught in university is entirely formulaic and memorization based-- they aren't given complex problems that have more than one solution. Give them a specific math problem to solve and they're fine. Give them a project or "math story problem" where they need to think of multiple approaches and they melt.

Back in the early 2000's when Indian offshoring was all the rage we (or I should say the CFO) tried twice to farm out development projects to India, and bother were unmitigated disasters. Besides their general (in)competence, English skills, and opposite work hours, their turnover was horrible. Try getting a competent piece of software out of a group that's turned its entire development staff over twice in the course of a year.

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Khane said:

Someone who owned a company that did a lot of work with Indians and was in India for a while explained to me that it is almost entirely due to their caste system. Which made sense to me.

If you get someone lower in the caste system they are not allowed to question authority in any fashion, so you have to be very explicit with exactly what you want and they will never ask you to clarify.

On the other hand if you are dealing with someone who was higher up in the caste system they are unaccustomed to being questioned at all, so when you do question them or try to get them to accept responsibility they simply skirt around the issue.

Whether or not that's true I can't really say but it certainly does seem like a logical conclusion to draw. And the behavior patterns fit almost everyone I've worked with who was born and raised in India.

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daly said:

I can't figure out if the issue is them wearing the sandals at all or you expecting them to wear socks with sandals?

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Noodleface said:

Been here for a few days now, couple thoughts.

The training I'm in is constantly telling me they're logging keystrokes.. Whether they are or not I don't know, but I don't even want to risk it. I assume it's one of those things where if you get caught they look into it. But either way basically scared me from trying to go to any websites besides work even though they said minimal internet usage is fine. They've repeated how much they monitor us so many times that I don't even want to try.

It feels like the Emc of defense contracting in terms of size, management levels, and red tape. Everything is slow.. I asked for access to the network share a couple days ago and still waiting.

Everything you do has a form associated with it. Feels very old fashioned.

Im enjoying it and the toys im working on are impressive and cool to say the least.

I have profit sharing but it's never been explained so I have no idea how that even works.

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