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So noddle send me his resume, with RL name and picture =) incoming Dick shops!!!.
It does looks good. How big was your team, were you self managed? What type of life-cycle style do you use? Scrum, agile, waterfall? Are you involved in the design phase. Do you have sample code available, for exampleCodeKatacan help you showcase your availability with the language, and some are fun to do.
 
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I make so much money as a developer I've actually just been buying huge piles of dirt and having them delivered to my enemies' driveways. Right in front of the garage door.
 
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lendarios_sl said:
So noddle send me his resume, with RL name and picture =) incoming Dick shops!!!.
It does looks good. How big was your team, were you self managed? What type of life-cycle style do you use? Scrum, agile, waterfall? Are you involved in the design phase. Do you have sample code available, for exampleCodeKatacan help you showcase your availability with the language, and some are fun to do.
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Couple good points - adding team size, management layer, development style. We are also designers as well.

No sample code except from undergrad, which probably looks atrocious.

I'm not sure if companies are looking for CodeKata (and similar) exercises at this level, or am I wrong?

Also, don't care if my name or picture are revealed. I just didn't want someone from rerolled showing up at my house with a gun asking why they got an infraction.
 
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They may not look at them,
A) They will give you something to do while at work browsing jobs,
B ) You can use them in your interview as an example of knowing the language. Specially if you do it on a git so you can show them right then and there.
 
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In the interview process, what do you guys do with applicant code samples? I mostly just scan them to find some kernel of actual work (maybe algorithmic work, maybe database query generation, whatever) and briefly measure whether it's ludicrous or not. I also feel like many junior dev's best code samples are from team projects and without walking through it with them I don't know if they actually wrote it!!
 
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If an applicant submits code, you can see the following.
* Documentation of code.
* Easiness of read, personal style.
* Use of arrays vs lists.
* Use of class composition vs procedural vs interface programming.
* Prevalence of loops vs recursions.
* Constructor usage.
All those without even knowing what the code does.
 
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At what level do you not expect to see code any more?

I mean maybe with a guy right out of college, but for someone like me that has worked in the industry for a few years why would I need to submit code examples?
 
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I never expect to see code. If is there good, if not Ill ask you something simple.

Some places do have tests right out of the bag. For example, I applied to Ultimate Software, and the first thing they did prior to even meeting me was to do a 1 hour long code test. It was simple but I failed because I couldn't use google for the specific syntax. It was my fault to be honest.
 
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Noodlemod_sl said:
At what level do you not expect to see code any more?

I mean maybe with a guy right out of college, but for someone like me that has worked in the industry for a few years why would I need to submit code examples?
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I wouldn't expect to see code samples from someone that has been in the industry for a while
 
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I never expect to see code. If is there good, if not Ill ask you something simple.

Some places do have tests right out of the bag. For example, I applied to Ultimate Software, and the first thing they did prior to even meeting me was to do a 1 hour long code test. It was simple but I failed because I couldn't use google for the specific syntax. It was my fault to be honest.
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Sounds like a stupid policy. IDEs auto complete and auto generate syntax for you why would I need to memorize exactly how the syntax works when my brain memory knows more that "At this point Intellij will just pop up the syntax and I hit enter." Its not like I'll ever NOT have an IDE to program unless the IDE of choice for the company is notepad/vi.

On a side note some people here still program in vi. I find it absurd.
 
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Tenks_sl said:
Sounds like a stupid policy. IDEs auto complete and auto generate syntax for you why would I need to memorize exactly how the syntax works when my brain memory knows more that "At this point Intellij will just pop up the syntax and I hit enter." Its not like I'll ever NOT have an IDE to program unless the IDE of choice for the company is notepad/vi.

On a side note some people here still program in vi. I find it absurd.
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Wait. Ultimate Software is a real company?

ROFL. Sounds retarded.
 
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We have to write BIOS in a weird IDE, it doesn't really auto-complete things (sometimes it does???????????????????). I know C syntax like a fuckin beast.
 
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Do people still work on stuff that actually takes a long time to compile?
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One of the major hadoop backend projects takes a fuckton of time to deploy. Literally like 20 minutes. Luckily you really only need to do that if you write new scripts so it can source in the necessary property files for the environment. Other than that you can make the Hadoop uber jar in less than a minute and just swap it into the deployed directory.
 
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