Caliane
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JL: The Flashpoint Paradox.
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Gavinmad
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Well, Mera was about to attack her, even if it was a bit extreme. Killing Billy Batson was really fucked up though. The whole movie was fucked up, I liked it, but fuck.
Is it available as a graphic novel/compendium? I'm a bit too lazy to track down a bunch of individual comics.
Shonuff
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I liked the movie better than the comics. I was salty over the crossover, because they told us beforehand that it would lead into another retcon/reboot of the entire universe. As far as the violence, I had to keep my kids' eyes covered after the first decapitation. My seven year old daughter's favorite hero is Wonder Woman, and she couldn't understand why Wonder Woman was going around killing people. This is not a movie for young kids, whether it says DC or not.
Nester
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Batman: Rise of the Dark Knight (part 1 and 2, watch in one sitting) & JL DOOM, if you like GL, i enjoyed First Flight, this is how the Live action one should have gone.
Grimmlokk
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Not a GL fan but I enjoyed First Flight.
Is Rise of the Dark Knight just Dark Knight Returns animated?
Chukzombi
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this was pretty fucking crazy. i only recognized about half of the characters. what i knew was from watching episodes of Superfirends as a kid and the live action shazaam, batman, wonder woman flash and arrow shows.
was that dr manhattan as the WMD?
was that dr manhattan as the WMD?
Caliane
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Its pretty common yes. in both DC and marvel.
And really funny, when its retconned in.
WW originally was formed from clay. Hippolyta the demigod amazon queen wanted a baby, and sculpted one of out of clay, while daydreaming. The gods gifted her by giving life to the baby, and blessing her with various gifts.
Nu52, Hippolyta fucked Zeus. Zeus is now missing, presumed dead. Hera hates all her husbands lovers, so visits Hippolyta, turns all the Amazons into snakes, and Hippolyta into a statue.
WW now has two dead parents.
Superman has 3 dead parents.
Robins all have 2 dead parents.
Mary/Billy Batson have 2 dead parents.
Peter parker has 3 dead parents.
Start making a list, and yeah, would probably be like 85% or more have dead parents.
Batwoman, living dad, who is very supportive. Dead(not really) twin sister.
Its mostly lazy storytelling. its easy drama and conflict. And the other issue is support for your character. If your character has a network of family and friends to support them, it can be really easy to fall back on them too much. Killing parents, forces the character to out there alone.
And really funny, when its retconned in.
WW originally was formed from clay. Hippolyta the demigod amazon queen wanted a baby, and sculpted one of out of clay, while daydreaming. The gods gifted her by giving life to the baby, and blessing her with various gifts.
Nu52, Hippolyta fucked Zeus. Zeus is now missing, presumed dead. Hera hates all her husbands lovers, so visits Hippolyta, turns all the Amazons into snakes, and Hippolyta into a statue.
WW now has two dead parents.
Superman has 3 dead parents.
Robins all have 2 dead parents.
Mary/Billy Batson have 2 dead parents.
Peter parker has 3 dead parents.
Start making a list, and yeah, would probably be like 85% or more have dead parents.
Batwoman, living dad, who is very supportive. Dead(not really) twin sister.
Its mostly lazy storytelling. its easy drama and conflict. And the other issue is support for your character. If your character has a network of family and friends to support them, it can be really easy to fall back on them too much. Killing parents, forces the character to out there alone.
Chukzombi
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in the movie, Flash's mother is murdered by a mystery man and it controls his destiny because he wished he had gotten home faster.
arrow, was a rich frat boy til he and his dad get shipwrecked and the dad kills himself so his son may live.
batman, dead parents
i assume these origins have dead parents because these comics were aimed at young boys and it made them realize how devastated their lives would be if they lost their mom and/or dad.
arrow, was a rich frat boy til he and his dad get shipwrecked and the dad kills himself so his son may live.
batman, dead parents
i assume these origins have dead parents because these comics were aimed at young boys and it made them realize how devastated their lives would be if they lost their mom and/or dad.
Asmadai
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Yeah, I never got into comics nearly as much as some of the people on this forum, but I can really dig these alternate reality stories - the ability of it all being reversed by the end of the issue/arc/movie and the freedom they get in regards to killing off main characters - hell yeah.
j00t
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it's a lot harder to write for a character that is very simply, altruistic without having that character be boring. the interesting story arc is one where a character survives tragedy. there's plenty of characters that haven't had any significant deaths prior to becoming a hero... but unless you just really hammer home their own personal tragedy they end up like superman. boyscouts that are increasingly difficult to make interesting.
if i remember correctly, none of the green lanterns have had any significant deaths? maybe hal but i don't really know his pre-GL days very well. i mean, they've all had issues to get over but no deaths. right?
but yes... it's an incredibly common theme.. i mean even Red Tornado has had to deal with his "father's" death.
if i remember correctly, none of the green lanterns have had any significant deaths? maybe hal but i don't really know his pre-GL days very well. i mean, they've all had issues to get over but no deaths. right?
but yes... it's an incredibly common theme.. i mean even Red Tornado has had to deal with his "father's" death.