Justice for Zimmerman

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Tanoomba

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My only change is that I believe there was a possibly that Zimmerman could have died to Trayvon or even vice versa if the fight kept going on. Not having a gun does not guarantee that someone doesn't die. Do you disagree with that? Surely you don't think there is 0% chance that Zimmerman might have died if the fight had continued? If you disagree with this, why do you think Zimmerman should have been acquitted because of SD?
Of course I would never say there is a 0% chance that Zimmerman could have died. Shit, he could have slipped and fell on the way back to his car and died. But I do think it's very likely no one would have died had Zimmerman not been carrying a gun that night.


No, its not. Gavinrad summarized my position perfectly. You're just too fucking dumb to see that shit.
Wow, you are the pussiest pussy to ever pussy a pussy. Stop hiding behind Gav's apron. Gavin said that whether or not Martin would have killed Zimmerman is irrelevant to the case. I agree.Yousaid Martin would have killed Zimmerman if not for his gun. I disagree.


Disproven at 40 minutes into the second section of the medical examiner questioning on the stand, intent is irrelevant.
Yeah, so the head is susceptible to stunning, concussions, and possibly death (if hit hard enough). Martin didn't hit hard enough to do any of those. He was angry and beating up the man, not trying to kill him.


Yes, they do. The idea that the death of Martin is Zimmerman's fault for carrying a gun is, in fact, conflicting with the evidence.
Who said Zimmerman was at fault for carrying the gun? Not me.



Its already been shown that you gave yourself plusses to get to positive through other accounts and that you then began giving negs before you made a post on this forum.
Askamod thread. You must have missed it.
He didn't need to generate one, he already has a few. Take a look at my profile. There's two of them. Exactly 5 posts. Seems pretty non coicidental. If they're real posters let them come in here and defend Tanoomba.
It has been shown? By whom? This is literally the first I've heard of this even being discussed in the Askamod thread. But shit, it's easy to make baseless claims when you know it can't be proven either way. Basically you're saying the only way to prove it is if people I have zero control over happen to read your post and decide I'm somehow worth defending just to make you look like even more of an idiot. But you know what, even if they did, you wouldn't buy it anyway. You'd say I'm doing it somehow, wouldn't you? And then you callmepathetic. How the mighty have fallen.
 

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Of course I would never say there is a 0% chance that Zimmerman could have died. Shit, he could have slipped and fell on the way back to his car and died. But I do think it's very likely no one would have died had Zimmerman not been carrying a gun that night.
So again, the difference really is in percentages. You think it is close to 0, I put it much higher than that based on my understanding of the ME, but whatever, not worth arguing about a percentage that we can't really prove. I certainly couldn't say its 20%, or 60%. I have no idea, I just think it was a possibility.
 

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not only can't you depend on police being able to protect you, they aren't legally obliged to protect you, police are only obliged to arrest people after they committed a crime. there's several cases involving stalkers where the police where asked multiple times to protect someone, they didn't that person died and the judgement was they aren't obliged to protect anyone.
 

Merrith

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You may not be concerned about it, but the differences matter to me. I am a big believer in the principle of self-defense. If you start a physical confrontation with someone, they should be able to respond with deadly force if they believe that they might receive grievous harm or even death. You simply can't depend on the police being around to protect you. I believe this also has a deterrence effect on people starting fights based on silly reasons like "he was following me".

So yeah, while you may only be concerned with "overall life totals" or something, I am much more worried about the victim of an assault getting through it.
All completely fair points. Also I never said I wasn't concerned with the differences in general, just that I wasn't concerned with your order of importance when the question I asked was only regarding how likely you thought all outcomes that would result in someone dying without the presence of a gun would be.
 

Tanoomba

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Here from the Askamod thread
In reverse order of posting because I'm lazy.
Mire and Marmac are my buddies. Marmac and I have been friends since literally birth, as our mothers met in the hospital they gave birth in. We went to elementary school together and still hang out semi-regularly. He's a big game fan (like me) but tends to shy away from political discussions. He mostly posts in his own "Retro Video Game Pics Thread". Mire is my friend since high school. He's very much into political discussion but hesitates to participate on this board because he sees how nasty this shit gets and he prefers to not make himself a target. He generally posts videos of terrible music in the music thread, although he has been following the "NSA watches you poop" thread quite intently and occasionally makes a comment there. I go to Belmire's house every Friday night (we live in the same neighborhood) for drinking and gaming, so that's why I access the board from his IP on Fridays (and sometimes Saturdays). Mire introduced me to FOH back in the day and we both lurked regularly until we had a chance to join Rerolled (Mire joined MoreNets too, but I missed that whole phase). I don't know Rocketvision. Sue me.

Am I being detained here or not? Do I need to call my lawyer? Would you like to know how long my shits take? My blood type? Jesus fuck, you guys, do you know how paranoid and delusional you sound?

EDIT: Shit, I have yet to receive a net from either Marmac or Mire! I bet they never negged you either, am I right? Fucking idiot.
 

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This thread would be way better if everyone's avatar was a picture of themselves. Just because.
 

hodj

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Sounds pretty guilty to me.

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So are you admitting you and your friends plussed each other up so you could then give out negs before even posting?

Seems pretty pathetic. Like something someone who makes a lot of alts to give out negs when they're getting demolished in a thread would do.

This thread would be way better if everyone's avatar was a picture of themselves. Just because.
How do you know mine isn't? (besides the fact that I'm black, of course)
 

Tanoomba

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Sounds pretty guilty to me.

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So are you admitting you and your friends plussed each other up so you could then give out negs before even posting?

Seems pretty pathetic. Like something someone who makes a lot of alts to give out negs when they're getting demolished in a thread would do.
I think I gave my buddies +1 each, both to boost their egos and because they posted something I approve of. They have yet to give me even 1 net, the bastards. In any case, we certainly never helped each other out for the purpose of being able to give negs. That would be retarded and, as you said, pathetic. So would creating an alt just to neg you. Get over yourself, man. Or at least put your money where your mouth is. Seriously, wanna get a bet going?
 

hodj

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I think I gave my buddies +1 each, both to boost their egos and because they posted something I approve of.
So you are admitting to boosting you and your friend's + ratings so that you can give plusses and negs before you began posting.

Gotcha.

I mean really, Tanoomba. How pathetic can you be?

What a sad state this forum has come to, with your terrible trolling and attempting to rig the system our moderators have instilled in order to ensure that we can give one another positive and negative feedback to help us improve our posting habits. How much lower will you sink to make yourself feel better?

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Tanoomba

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So you are admitting to boosting you and your friend's + ratings so that you can give plusses and negs before you began posting.

Gotcha.

I mean really, Tanoomba. How pathetic can you be?

What a sad state this forum has come to, with your terrible trolling and attempting to rig the system our moderators have instilled in order to ensure that we can give one another positive and negative feedback to help us improve our posting habits. How much lower will you sink to make yourself feel better?
So you've sunk to obvious trolling now? You suck, Hodj.
 

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