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Caliane

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Am I the only one hoping for a Constantine sequel? I know it will never happen but...

Oh well.
Constantine will be the main character for the Justice League Dark, or Dark Universe, whichever they call it..

And properly blonde.
 

Caliane

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So supposedly the fate of a Justice League movie right now is contingent on Man of Steel being a hit. If itisa hitZack Snyder will direct the Justice League movie.
lose/lose.


If man of steel fails, DC is basically done with movies. It will likely kill the JL dark movie as well.
If man of steel succeeds. more grim dark shit. and more Snyder/Nolan. Chances of seeing, Booster gold, JLI, JSA, Blue beetle, Question, etc. Zero.
 

Grimmlokk

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Honestly I'm in take what I can get mode with them. If Man of Steel succeeding means we get a darker "more realistic" DC universe I can deal with that. I'll take it over no DC universe, basically.
 

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lose/lose.


If man of steel fails, DC is basically done with movies. It will likely kill the JL dark movie as well.
If man of steel succeeds. more grim dark shit. and more Snyder/Nolan. Chances of seeing, Booster gold, JLI, JSA, Blue beetle, Question, etc. Zero.
The DC Execs make the most retarded decisions
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. Avengers did billions, and DC is still asking itself if a JLA movie is feasible.

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The DC Execs make the most retarded decisions
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. Avengers did billions, and DC is still asking itself if a JLA movie is feasible.
The DC movies have mostly been stinkers while the cartoons do justice to both classic and new story lines. The opposite is true for Marvel. The movies have mostly been quality, and the cartoons have been silly parodies. The execs are just being risk averse and want to stick with what has made them money in the past.

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dc execs don't know shit about what is bringing them profits. They routinely pull people off their best selling comics for no reason, then change course and are forced to put them back on after fan outcry as with Gail Simone on Batgirl.
 

Shonuff

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The DC movies have mostly been stinkers while the cartoons do justice to both classic and new story lines.
B.S. DC Execs are beyond retarded. They just canceled Young Justice prematurely, and it was the second highest rated cartoon on TV. They don't know what they are doing, and they are mired in excessive politics. There was an article (which I posted on FOH, but can't find now) that pretty much said that DC is divided in half, under two Execs. One of these Execs will be next head of DC Comics. Nothing is getting greenlit because if you vote for a project in the wrong camp, you are seen as taking sides. No one is taking sides, so nothing not much is getting greenlit. Instead of acting like one united company, they are acting like rival companies, but they are in the same building. They are spending more time infighting than on managing their business. Creative suffers because the suits are calling the shots.
 

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B.S. DC Execs are beyond retarded. They just canceled Young Justice prematurely, and it was the second highest rated cartoon on TV. They don't know what they are doing, and they are mired in excessive politics. There was an article (which I posted on FOH, but can't find now) that pretty much said that DC is divided in half, under two Execs. One of these Execs will be next head of DC Comics. Nothing is getting greenlit because if you vote for a project in the wrong camp, you are seen as taking sides. No one is taking sides, so nothing not much is getting greenlit. Instead of acting like one united company, they are acting like rival companies, but they are in the same building. They are spending more time infighting than on managing their business. Creative suffers because the suits are calling the shots.
I thought Young Justice got canceled because of Cartoon Network and them not making enough from merchandise off of it. Same reason Thundercats and on Disney Tron: Uprising were canceled.

I loved Young Justice and was hoping we'd get a JL series by the same creators because I loved the JL team in this universe even more so than the old JL series. Too bad somebody doesn't understand what a good TV show is.
 

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I thought Young Justice got canceled because of Cartoon Network and them not making enough from merchandise off of it. Same reason Thundercats and on Disney Tron: Uprising were canceled.
DC and Cartoon Network are owned by the same parent company, so that should tell you the politics going on. It was a hit show, that was canceled. And since when do toy sales become more important than ratings?
 

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DC and Cartoon Network are owned by the same parent company, so that should tell you the politics going on. It was a hit show, that was canceled. And since when do toy sales become more important than ratings?
When you make more money from toy sales than you do from advertising?
 

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When you make more money from toy sales than you do from advertising?
I remember when Cars 2 was coming out. I, and every other thinking human, was all "What the fuck, Cars sucked! Make Incredibles 2!". But then it was mentioned that though Cars was the worst reviewed Pixar movie it had sold TEN BILLION DOLLARS in merch in the 5 years since release.

Yeah, toy sales are a big deal.
 

Shonuff

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When you make more money from toy sales than you do from advertising?
I'll take the Marvel approach, they give us a variety of their heroes, without much regard to toy sales. DC just keeps churning out Batman, Superman and Teen Titans for toy sales. I love Batman, but he's had like umpteen episodes.

Hell, the average age of a comic book reader is 28. DC's not having much success, because they keep trying to cater to 10 year olds. Almost every time a DC cartoon is canceled, it's over toy sales. You never hear of that being in the equation for a Marvel cartoon.

Toy sales should have nothing to do with telling a good story. At DC, toy sales > creative. That's not right.
 

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When rob " can't draw feet" liefeld can't work under your retarded conditions and comes out and publicly decrys you, there is something really wrong.
 

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That Cars figure does not surprise me. Look at the coin Thomas the Tank Engine brings in. I'm not sure you can really compare that to comic book movies, though, unless your demographic is 5-10 year olds.

I always hated DC when I was younger, and loved Marvel. Superman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, etc always seemed cheesy as fuck and terrible characters.

X-men had a lot more going for it, and most of the other characters peripheral to that comic are what I enjoyed. That's not to say cheese does not sell. I was amazed the Fantastic Four movie did decently as that seems similar to DC works

It's too bad the Lobo film never came to fruition. It was a blatant ripoff, but as a good chunk of Marvel was borrowed from DC, and that would've at least had a good backstory.

http://www.blastr.com/2013-2-15/dc-c...just-went-away

Lobo is a fictional character that appears in comic books published by DC Comics. The Lobo character was created by Roger Slifer and Keith Giffen, and first appeared in Omega Men #3 (June 1983). Lobo is an alien, and works as an interstellar mercenary and bounty hunter. Lobo was Introduced as a hardened, although rarely used, hardboiled villain in the 1980s, and remained in limbo until his revival as an anti-hero biker in the early 1990s.
 

Caliane

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yeah, thats the thing with Cars that alot of older viewers overlook.
Little kids love it.
 

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i think a lot of it has to do with the fact that the marvel superheroes are just flat out more interesting than DC superheroes. not going to go all nerdy on this, but really, aside for batman, most of DC's heroes are just really fucking lame. superman disguises himself as a goofy news reporter. not interesting. wonder woman has a rope that makes people tell the truth and bracelets that deflect bullets (fuck me that's lame). aquaman's only power is to control sea creatures (really?). they're all just flat. compare that to marvel's characters, who all have powers but also are still vulnerable and have a darker side (like spiderman, the x-men, hulk, etc...) and you can make a lot more interesting movies.
I think this is complete bullshit. flash, martian manhunter, green lantern, question, Dr fate ect all have great stories you can do. The studios are just fucking retarded an if the were able to pull off black widow and hawk eye in the avengers I see no reason to say they can't pull off wonder woman or aquaman
 

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Do they not understand that you need to build an IP with good stories and characters to even GET the toy sales?
 

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All of DC characters except Batman suck. It's virtually impossible to make a DC property not suck on the big screen.