Legend of Grimrock 2

Firearms isn't too bad, but only for one weapon and it's only for like "oh shit I need to kill shit" moments. Damage is fairly low otherwise. Sadly, missile is also low, so mostly your options are to either throw bombs(don't need the throw skill for that either, just need to make bombs which you don't get many herbs for until later in the game) or get 2pt accuracy so you can melee from the back. That said I played with missiles and did fine, you really only need 2-3classes doing good damage. Alchemist only really need to hold herbs and run around. Get whatever for dmg, but if you don't use a rogue you might as well go dex dual wield daggers from the back, it does solid damage once you have good daggers.

Resist is fairly useless, it's good on a few key encounters but overall I'd rate it pretty low. Also the archmage set provides a lot of resist so your mage generally will end up with solid base resists without anything(I think I was capped in 2 resists from vit/willpower and other 2 at 60). This is especially true if you go Battle Mage with the additional resist. Insect with Chitin and/or Fast Metabolism would probably be better. Your mage can also generally cover 2 shield spells for elements, so you're only weak to a few things.

Get one mino in frontline, make sure to dump into dex and str instead of str and vit, you don't need the vit but you do need the dex. Will probably end up needing 1-2points in accuracy too. You'll get a bunch of bonus str from the skulls you collect(obviously get headhunter) and the higher starting str means you'll do quite a bit more damage that way. Other frontline lizard is fine, though you might as well Ratling for additional stats via mutations. Frontline resist isn't particularily useful as you might think since every elemental damage source is aoe and hits the entire party regardless, so the damage is scaled appropriately.

That's pretty much how I'd do the ultimate party based on my knowledge now, 1mino barb heavy weap heavy armor with a bit of accuracy, 1ratling barb heavy weap heavy armor with a bit of hp thing, 1 backline ratling alchemist light weapons dex with 2pt accuracy and 1 wizard or combat mage, fire/air with 1pt water and 3pt concentration for the various useful spells, insect most likely.

Finished the game, missed 3 secrets, but eh, that's not terrible. Great game.

Disp_sl said:

Thanks, I'll try that. I do remember seeing that lever you're talking about and

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just never thought to try clicking it because it's on the other side of the door.

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You don't click stuff through doors, doesn't work, but there's pressure plates and stuff that are not obvious in the area. I was stuck for a pretty long time in the mines too, on the upside, I found a bunch of secrets I had missed when I was looking how to progress.

Meteor forge is purely optional, just used to craft one of the top 3 HEAVY(yay more heavy weapons) endgame weapons.

Gilgamel_sl said:

So is combat basically just walking backwards then right, then backwards, then right, hitting mobs as they move and never attack you? I was enjoying it but now I'm kind of underwhelmed. Aside from the bosses this seems to work on pretty much anything. It sucks too because I was enjoying the challenge and now I feel like the game is fundamentally broken(in the area with the frogs, maybe it gets harder further in).

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As long as there's room to kite, yeah pretty much. The harder parts of the game throw a lot of shit at you at the same time though and you get surrounded and shit. Ranged mobs also force you to do some more maneuvering. The bog is probably one of the easier parts of the game. Catacombs or Pyramid is a ton harder to kite efficiently, you get hit by status ailment and quite often there's ambushes and shit with mobs coming from multiple sides with little room to kite. Also some mobs are too quick for that strategy. Frogs are basically one of the easier enemy in the game, they move slow and their special ability is only annoying if you facetank them so they're easy to handle.

Selix_sl said:

Question. I have found that I am able to wield two heavy weapons (skullcleave) but it seems to cooldowns on both are tied together? So it is pointless? I should just use a shield right? (they appear to be one handed heavy weapons I think?)

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You can put anything in either hands, but if you don't have the dual wield passive, using any hand puts both hands on cooldown. This is for example if you put a weapon in one hand and shurikens in the other or whatever, then you use whichever is better for the situation. But yeah mostly you put a shield in the other if you can't dual wield. Dualwield is a perk of Light weapons, so heavy is shield all the way(besides the point where you get 2H but don't have 5pt heavy yet).