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What Linux distribution do you use @ HOME ?

  • Slackware

    Votes: 1 1.3%
  • Ubuntu

    Votes: 32 42.1%
  • Mint

    Votes: 16 21.1%
  • Fedora

    Votes: 12 15.8%
  • Debian

    Votes: 9 11.8%
  • SUSE

    Votes: 6 7.9%
  • Arch

    Votes: 5 6.6%
  • Gentoo

    Votes: 1 1.3%
  • Puppy

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Mandriva

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Other

    Votes: 23 30.3%

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Kharzette

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Sanctions are affecting the kernel now, but at the timestamp I was surprised how many huawei employees are kernel maintainers:

 
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Getting nvenc going for OBS is tough. I am many many hours into it.

Regular nvidia drivers are still superbroken. Still on 535, the last ver that works with my secondary hdmi monitor.
 

Kharzette

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I had one last holdout buntu machine. I converted it tonight and it runs 6969696696969696969x better:

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Jovec

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A bit of a warning shot. Kent hasn't been playing nice for a long time, and bcachefs isn't production ready anyway, so arguably no harm done and Kent has a few months to get ready for 6.14 instead of making big changes during the RC phase. Linus mainly merged bcachefs in the hopes that Kent would follow procedure, and that hasn't quite worked out the way he hoped anyway.
 
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Nvidia finally fixed that bug with secondary dvi monitors not working. The open drivers just froze up for me, but the ordinary dkms ones worked.
 

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So when I wrote the above, I was very confused as to why my normal distro update didn't get the fixed driver, so I force installed it manually.

A few days later it started bothering me again so I looked into it more and realized the mirror I was using for my package manager hadn't updated since July. It basically stopped getting any updates right around the time of that horrible nvidia bug.

I've never messed with the mirrors and have no idea how a bad one got set like that, but I changed it to something else and bam 5 gigs of updates. Stupid me made my / partition too small though and it wouldn't fit.

So I had a swap partition right next to it, and just deleted it (I've never even needed swap) and merged it in. This worked fine and I updated and all was well. Then a few days later I went to boot windows and it had a rather obscure boot error.

At this point I had kind of forgotten about nuking the linux swap partition, so I was looking at the usual causes and trying the usual fixes and none of them worked. Eventually I decided to just reinstall win10, and when I did it still wouldn't boot.

So I cleaned off one of my newer ssds and just gave it a whole drive and installed there. Still wouldn't boot.

Eventually I remembered the swap thing and looked at my SDA drive. It was really goofy. There was no sda1 or 3 I think. By this time I had merged in the old windows partition so there were at least 2 gaps in the ordering. Apparently windows does not like this.

Googling about, there's an expert mode fdisk command that fixes this, and I went ahead and moved my EFI partition to sda1 just to help Windows feel a little more comfortable. It started booting immediately :emoji_laughing:

With that fixed I then discovered that during the install of windows, it completely trashed all the permissions on my totally unrelated NTFS data drive with all my code on it. Thanks. I've reformatted it ext4.

I've now got all my windowsy stuff down to one 256 gig ssd. All the games I play now run flawlessly on linux with only a small bit of monitor assgoblinry. All I really have windows left for is VRChat.
 
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So when I wrote the above, I was very confused as to why my normal distro update didn't get the fixed driver, so I force installed it manually.

A few days later it started bothering me again so I looked into it more and realized the mirror I was using for my package manager hadn't updated since July. It basically stopped getting any updates right around the time of that horrible nvidia bug.

I've never messed with the mirrors and have no idea how a bad one got set like that, but I changed it to something else and bam 5 gigs of updates. Stupid me made my / partition too small though and it wouldn't fit.

So I had a swap partition right next to it, and just deleted it (I've never even needed swap) and merged it in. This worked fine and I updated and all was well. Then a few days later I went to boot windows and it had a rather obscure boot error.

At this point I had kind of forgotten about nuking the linux swap partition, so I was looking at the usual causes and trying the usual fixes and none of them worked. Eventually I decided to just reinstall win10, and when I did it still wouldn't boot.

So I cleaned off one of my newer ssds and just gave it a whole drive and installed there. Still wouldn't boot.

Eventually I remembered the swap thing and looked at my SDA drive. It was really goofy. There was no sda1 or 3 I think. By this time I had merged in the old windows partition so there were at least 2 gaps in the ordering. Apparently windows does not like this.

Googling about, there's an expert mode fdisk command that fixes this, and I went ahead and moved my EFI partition to sda1 just to help Windows feel a little more comfortable. It started booting immediately :emoji_laughing:

With that fixed I then discovered that during the install of windows, it completely trashed all the permissions on my totally unrelated NTFS data drive with all my code on it. Thanks. I've reformatted it ext4.

I've now got all my windowsy stuff down to one 256 gig ssd. All the games I play now run flawlessly on linux with only a small bit of monitor assgoblinry. All I really have windows left for is VRChat.
You get Elden Ring / Mass Effect etc running on Linux? Is the AMD driver any better? I'm only on W11 because of games.
 

Kharzette

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No all I've run so far is Farm sim and Empyrion and Sun Haven, on nvidia.
 
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Check the steam library page for a given game for Steam Deck compatibility, and anything listed as Verified (in green) should work near perfectly. Elden Ring is verified, but Mass Effect shows as only Playable (which means some UI/text/input issues typically). I've been gaming on Linux exclusively the past year. For a while I was using Lutris as the game launcher, but it seemed a bit fragile, so now I just use steam as the proton launcher/front-end and it works fine. Steam games with Linux support work as normal, but for those without you need to enable the use a compatability layer (proton) in the steam options for that game. For non-steam games, first add them to your steam library, then enable the compatability layer.
 
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Check the steam library page for a given game for Steam Deck compatibility, and anything listed as Verified (in green) should work near perfectly. Elden Ring is verified, but Mass Effect shows as only Playable (which means some UI/text/input issues typically). I've been gaming on Linux exclusively the past year. For a while I was using Lutris as the game launcher, but it seemed a bit fragile, so now I just use steam as the proton launcher/front-end and it works fine. Steam games with Linux support work as normal, but for those without you need to enable the use a compatability layer (proton) in the steam options for that game. For non-steam games, first add them to your steam library, then enable the compatability layer.
And that is exactly the 'fiddling' I don't want to do , I just want to play the game. Old days, I'd make a custom autoexec.bat and config.sys to get the most out of a game. Fuck Windows, direct in DOS bitch. These days, if it doesn't work when I click play , it's refund time.
 

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This poor soul. Started making videos installing arch in attempt at impressing a lady I think:


But the curse of Arch is strong, and by day 100 he had become a femboy. Beware!
 
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With Windows 10 getting bricked this year I think I will finally convert my PC to Linux. I am looking for a distro that can do the following:

  • Run Steam games.
    • I use the PC for dicking around mostly. Gaming being the main use.
  • VSCode.
    • For personal projects.
  • IntelliJ.
  • General whatever.
I've used Linux often enough but I'd like some guidance on what distros to avoid mostly. I like, in principle, the idea of low level stuff like Arch but I don't really have that kind of time.

I am currently eyeing these ones:
  1. GNOME Release Notes
  2. OpenMandriva - Here comes OpenMandriva ROME
 

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With Windows 10 getting bricked this year I think I will finally convert my PC to Linux. I am looking for a distro that can do the following:

  • Run Steam games.
    • I use the PC for dicking around mostly. Gaming being the main use.
  • VSCode.
    • For personal projects.
  • IntelliJ.
  • General whatever.
I've used Linux often enough but I'd like some guidance on what distros to avoid mostly. I like, in principle, the idea of low level stuff like Arch but I don't really have that kind of time.

I am currently eyeing these ones:
  1. GNOME Release Notes
  2. OpenMandriva - Here comes OpenMandriva ROME

I loathe GNOME's UI. If you're looking for a Microsoft-like interface, KDE is much better. From a security POV, you want to stick with either KDE or GNOME because they are the only two that fully support Wayland (unless another DE recently picked up support that I am unaware of). There is no isolation between windows in X11. Unfortunately, it looks as though IntelliJ still doesn't have full Wayland support, so you are going to need to make some kind of trade-off between security and the app.

-buntu based distros are stable but generally not the best for gaming because they tend to lag somewhat behind on the kernel. Same goes with Debian-based distros.

The two most cutting-edge distros without being bleeding edge like Arch are probably Fedora and OpenSUSE. Fedora is the unofficial GNOME flagship distro (although you can have it run KDE or other DEs); OpenSUSE is the unofficial KDE flagship distro. Both are considered to be "intermediate" in terms of difficulty curve; they don't have codecs installed out-of-box like Mint, but the amount of finagling you need to do to get your system working is much less than Arch.

VSCode should work with both OpenSUSE and Fedora.

IntelliJ appears to recommend either --buntu or Fedora, though it does look like there are workarounds to get it working on OpenSUSE with snaps.
 
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sleevedraw sleevedraw if anything I am looking for a more Mac like experience as I use Mac for all things work related and am extremely familiar with using the terminal day to day.
 
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sleevedraw sleevedraw if anything I am looking for a more Mac like experience as I use Mac for all things work related and am extremely familiar with using the terminal day to day.
Fedora. Gnome provides Mac like UI. Also has "spins" other desktops to try. Least amount of BS to fiddle with (if at all). I don't play games on mine, but it is otherwise an excellent OS.
 
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I loathe GNOME's UI. If you're looking for a Microsoft-like interface, KDE is much better. From a security POV, you want to stick with either KDE or GNOME because they are the only two that fully support Wayland (unless another DE recently picked up support that I am unaware of). There is no isolation between windows in X11. Unfortunately, it looks as though IntelliJ still doesn't have full Wayland support, so you are going to need to make some kind of trade-off between security and the app.

-buntu based distros are stable but generally not the best for gaming because they tend to lag somewhat behind on the kernel. Same goes with Debian-based distros.

The two most cutting-edge distros without being bleeding edge like Arch are probably Fedora and OpenSUSE. Fedora is the unofficial GNOME flagship distro (although you can have it run KDE or other DEs); OpenSUSE is the unofficial KDE flagship distro. Both are considered to be "intermediate" in terms of difficulty curve; they don't have codecs installed out-of-box like Mint, but the amount of finagling you need to do to get your system working is much less than Arch.

VSCode should work with both OpenSUSE and Fedora.

IntelliJ appears to recommend either --buntu or Fedora, though it does look like there are workarounds to get it working on OpenSUSE with snaps.
I think I will be trying Tumbleweed.
 
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I think I will be trying Tumbleweed.

Nice. I prefer Tumbleweed a bit to Fedora on account of it being a true rolling release rather than a semi like Fedora. IMO Tumbleweed is a bit more stable because of the automated QA checks it gets run through. Both are nice distros, though.

The only major "quirks" are downloading codecs if you need them (you have to do this with Fedora too) and getting Snapper (basically Tumbleweed's homegrown equivalent of Windows System Restore snapshots) under control so that it doesn't eat up your entire hard drive.
 

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sleevedraw sleevedraw Why do you hate gnome?

I've been researching it some and it looks like a desktop that's built with the Mac App Launcher in mind. While I don't hate the app launcher on Mac, I almost never use it and I don't think something so "rigid" would be enjoyable. I like Mac for its superior window management over Windows. Seems you can mess around in KDE enough to get close enough?