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BoozeCube

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It's over if the US gaming industry doesn't unretard itself and go back to making games for dudes.



This would be normal in the 90's. How retarded we became in such a short period of time, and it ain't even the puritan Christians fault. It's the degenerate faggots who made it this way.
 
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Grabbit Allworth

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I'm beyond salty with this fucking game right now. Last night I decided to learn to play support and spent a couple hours in Quick Play learning Mantis, C&D, and Luna. I did well on all 3. Obviously, I'm not amazing, but I was doing well.

I switch over to competitive and the next 25 matches were 3-22. I went from Plat I to Gold III. At first, I thought I must just be bad, but I led healing for 85% of games. I didn't die to stupid things (mostly, getting dove with no help) and was a legitimate force multiplier.

However, after about 7 or 8 games I started to realize it wasn't me. The teams were just trash and as support you get to see a lot of stuff I never saw as Hulk because I was constantly harassing the other team.

I finally realized that as Hulk I was semi-carrying teams by providing so much disruption by diving their support and other squishies. I literally almost never stop jumping. The longest I ever stay on the ground at one time is about 5 seconds and it's just to slap around a target and then I'm out. The time they took to deal with me or run from me was enough for their tanks/dps to get shit on.

I haven't seen a single Hulk play like that. Well, not on my team. I did have an opponent Hulk flying around the map causing a ton of problems and I understand why what I was doing was so disruptive.

I will say this though, I earned a lot more respect and understanding for support. Their healing is great, but it can only do so much. If you're getting focused and not doing anything to help yourself, they can't save you. Also, if your positioning is bad it puts them in a horrible position and both of you are going to die.

I never bad mouthed healers as Hulk because when I died I was usually halfway across the map, but the number of absolute morons who would say "healers need to heal" after I poured every click and button press into them for a literal minute and they killed no one, makes me want to find them in real life and choke them the fuck out.

I tried to communicate with my teams about what they needed to do, but I guess at plat/gold people feel like they have it figured out and don't listen.

I have absolutely no problem staying in the spawn when I know the team is a lost cause. I absolutely refuse to get farmed with idiots. Sometimes I even tell the faggots that I am doing a shit job (when I am objectively doing above average) that I'll just stay in the spawn and read online how to get better since I'm not doing anything anyway. They lose their shit and threaten to report me -- every time.

This is why I don't play team-based competitive games. I hate people, but I hate stupid people with a fury that I cannot put into words.
 
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Aazrael

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Tried this today and kinda like it. Did Scarlet Witch and she was ok, kinda like Moira from OW without the heals.

Whats a good character to learn the game with?
 

Noodleface

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I'm beyond salty with this fucking game right now. Last night I decided to learn to play support and spent a couple hours in Quick Play learning Mantis, C&D, and Luna. I did well on all 3. Obviously, I'm not amazing, but I was doing well.

I switch over to competitive and the next 25 matches were 3-22. I went from Plat I to Gold III. At first, I thought I must just be bad, but I led healing for 85% of games. I didn't die to stupid things (mostly, getting dove with no help) and was a legitimate force multiplier.

However, after about 7 or 8 games I started to realize it wasn't me. The teams were just trash and as support you get to see a lot of stuff I never saw as Hulk because I was constantly harassing the other team.

I finally realized that as Hulk I was semi-carrying teams by providing so much disruption by diving their support and other squishies. I literally almost never stop jumping. The longest I ever stay on the ground at one time is about 5 seconds and it's just to slap around a target and then I'm out. The time they took to deal with me or run from me was enough for their tanks/dps to get shit on.

I haven't seen a single Hulk play like that. Well, not on my team. I did have an opponent Hulk flying around the map causing a ton of problems and I understand why what I was doing was so disruptive.

I will say this though, I earned a lot more respect and understanding for support. Their healing is great, but it can only do so much. If you're getting focused and not doing anything to help yourself, they can't save you. Also, if your positioning is bad it puts them in a horrible position and both of you are going to die.

I never bad mouthed healers as Hulk because when I died I was usually halfway across the map, but the number of absolute morons who would say "healers need to heal" after I poured every click and button press into them for a literal minute and they killed no one, makes me want to find them in real life and choke them the fuck out.

I tried to communicate with my teams about what they needed to do, but I guess at plat/gold people feel like they have it figured out and don't listen.

I have absolutely no problem staying in the spawn when I know the team is a lost cause. I absolutely refuse to get farmed with idiots. Sometimes I even tell the faggots that I am doing a shit job (when I am objectively doing above average) that I'll just stay in the spawn and read online how to get better since I'm not doing anything anyway. They lose their shit and threaten to report me -- every time.

This is why I don't play team-based competitive games. I hate people, but I hate stupid people with a fury that I cannot put into words.
To be honest with all due respect you sound like a shitty teammate.
 
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Penance

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Tried this today and kinda like it. Did Scarlet Witch and she was ok, kinda like Moira from OW without the heals.

Whats a good character to learn the game with?
Do one of each role so you can flex.

Low effort heroes to learn would be Scarlet, Magneto, cloak and dagger.
 
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Brahma

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I'm beyond salty with this fucking game right now. Last night I decided to learn to play support and spent a couple hours in Quick Play learning Mantis, C&D, and Luna. I did well on all 3. Obviously, I'm not amazing, but I was doing well.

I switch over to competitive and the next 25 matches were 3-22. I went from Plat I to Gold III. At first, I thought I must just be bad, but I led healing for 85% of games. I didn't die to stupid things (mostly, getting dove with no help) and was a legitimate force multiplier.

However, after about 7 or 8 games I started to realize it wasn't me. The teams were just trash and as support you get to see a lot of stuff I never saw as Hulk because I was constantly harassing the other team.

I finally realized that as Hulk I was semi-carrying teams by providing so much disruption by diving their support and other squishies. I literally almost never stop jumping. The longest I ever stay on the ground at one time is about 5 seconds and it's just to slap around a target and then I'm out. The time they took to deal with me or run from me was enough for their tanks/dps to get shit on.

I haven't seen a single Hulk play like that. Well, not on my team. I did have an opponent Hulk flying around the map causing a ton of problems and I understand why what I was doing was so disruptive.

I will say this though, I earned a lot more respect and understanding for support. Their healing is great, but it can only do so much. If you're getting focused and not doing anything to help yourself, they can't save you. Also, if your positioning is bad it puts them in a horrible position and both of you are going to die.

I never bad mouthed healers as Hulk because when I died I was usually halfway across the map, but the number of absolute morons who would say "healers need to heal" after I poured every click and button press into them for a literal minute and they killed no one, makes me want to find them in real life and choke them the fuck out.

I tried to communicate with my teams about what they needed to do, but I guess at plat/gold people feel like they have it figured out and don't listen.

I have absolutely no problem staying in the spawn when I know the team is a lost cause. I absolutely refuse to get farmed with idiots. Sometimes I even tell the faggots that I am doing a shit job (when I am objectively doing above average) that I'll just stay in the spawn and read online how to get better since I'm not doing anything anyway. They lose their shit and threaten to report me -- every time.

This is why I don't play team-based competitive games. I hate people, but I hate stupid people with a fury that I cannot put into words.

Well I know who to avoid playing games with.
 

gauze

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This is why I don't play team-based competitive games. I hate people, but I hate stupid people with a fury that I cannot put into words.
I think this sentiment is fair; but I guess my only contribution is that you can only really play the best you can, and figure out how to carry with what you're given(it is possible).. Even if it takes some ounce of social engineering(I don't use my mic, ever; but that is the hand i've chosen).. whether or not that is worth your time is up to you. I did hear that Rival's MMR system for rank does take into count your performance and will lessen the impact of your losses and increase your wins.. by fractions but it is something, though I don't have any statistical facts on that.

Something that helped me, more or less.. is that one game or five games isn't going to matter in a pool for 100 or 200.. a lot of the people who sit at high rank easily 2x and 3x the average hours.. I've only played supp a handful of times, and you have to do one of two things; either a, find your win condition via a person to pocket and setup for success or b, eliminate and kill high-value targets to lessen the burden on your team.. it'll be hard to be a pure healer at lower ranks.

There is a whole slew of memes going around right now about CoD and Apex players transfering over and having phenomenal stats, but stuck in low elo lobbies.. but it's an old cs adage(had some validity in OW) that while your stats matter less than you think, but what you do in the match matters more.


I'm D1 and steadily climbing w/o any sort of grinding.
 

Oblio

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I dropped from Plat I to Silver I. At one point I had a 1-19-1 win loss record. Currently Gold II, was about to hit Gold I and then lost 3 straight. Just trying to get back to Plat by tomorrow, but I doubt it will happen because I am going out to dinner with my wife to acknowledge/celebrate our first date that was 27 years ago today.

If I had known they would de-rank us at the end of the season I would have stopped at in Plat.

Heroes I play on the regular are Groot, Magneto, Strange, Rocket and Adam. If I have to DPS I prefer Star Lord, Ironman, Namor, Punisher and have dabbled with Scarlett.
 
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Penance

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If you really want to climb to diamond in solo q turn off all forms of communication of the game. Unless you have a strong mind against random shitters (you don't).
 
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Grabbit Allworth

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To be honest with all due respect you sound like a shitty teammate.
I'm toxic as fuck when it comes to common sense.

For example - Don't complain about not getting healed when you stand in the literal middle of a pathway and get drilled by the entire opponent's team.

It's just one example, but I see pure idiocy like that every game.

If we get outplayed, so be it. Respect to people that are better than my team and I, but I fucking despise losing because people are just stupid and point fingers.

I self-reflect too. In fact, I had a couple games today where I thought I played very poorly and one game where I told my team I think I cost them the match because I fell in lava --3-- times during clutch moments.
 

Grabbit Allworth

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Do one of each role so you can flex.

Low effort heroes to learn would be Scarlet, Magneto, cloak and dagger.
I've done that. I can actually play several fairly well.

I can play Hulk, C&D, Luna, Mantis, Winter Soldier, and a couple other duelists. I really need to master another tank because he's really not a tank in the traditional sense. I can't fill the role properly in 1 tank situations. I just eat damage and power up ult's. All the other tanks (save Venom) have ways to mitigate damage. Hulk's primary defense is mobility and that leaves the team exposed.

Anyway,

When I do play, I take all this shit seriously because I don't want to be a liability. I fine tune all the settings for each specific character. Highly customized my UI (the options are amazing). Tuned my sensitivity for each character, tweaked the targeting reticle to suit each hero, etc., etc., etc.
 

Oblio

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If you really want to climb to diamond in solo q turn off all forms of communication of the game. Unless you have a strong mind against random shitters (you don't).
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Grabbit Allworth

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that while your stats matter less than you think, but what you do in the match matters more.
Absolutely this.

I immediately know someone is a complete fucking retard when their angle for complaining or bragging has anything to do with stats. It's easy as fuck to pad most of the stats and have almost no impact on the outcome.

I try to win. Every. Fucking. Game. Sometimes I do stuff like dive deep into a team's back line when my team dies because I know they'll chase me and I can usually survive long enough for my own team to rez up and get back on offense. I usually die, but the morons see it as retard-tier play and don't actually understand the reasoning. I know that won't work at some point, but at Silver (where I have fallen to) most people are idiots and suffer from dog brain that can't resist the chase.

I actually prevented a loss today by doing exactly that. The cart was about to stall out and if the enemy team not chased me they could have choked us back at the doorway, but they followed me and it allowed us to push the last 50 feet to break the tie.
 

Penance

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I've done that. I can actually play several fairly well.

I can play Hulk, C&D, Luna, Mantis, Winter Soldier, and a couple other duelists. I really need to master another tank because he's really not a tank in the traditional sense. I can't fill the role properly in 1 tank situations. I just eat damage and power up ult's. All the other tanks (save Venom) have ways to mitigate damage. Hulk's primary defense is mobility and that leaves the team exposed.

Anyway,

When I do play, I take all this shit seriously because I don't want to be a liability. I fine tune all the settings for each specific character. Highly customized my UI (the options are amazing). Tuned my sensitivity for each character, tweaked the targeting reticle to suit each hero, etc., etc., etc.
For me its Strange/Magneto/Hulk (when I can do teamup mainly)
Hela/Psylocke/Bucky
C&D/Mantis although I'm picking up Loki more and more

I find I tend to pick my heroes based around teamups more often then not. Some are really good.
 

Grabbit Allworth

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I'd be down to play with those of you that aren't morons.

I know that sounds harsh, but I don't want to be angry with FoH bros. I don't expert pro-level play, just basic, common sense.

To be honest with all due respect you sound like a shitty teammate.
Noodleface Noodleface I'm almost positive we were on the same team day before yesterday. We won, easily, is all I remember about it.

*Edit* I think you played Groot. I was on Hulk.
 

Grabbit Allworth

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I've just been screwing around with Invisible Woman and her kit is absolutely amazing.

She's a healing monster and she adds so much utility with her push, pull, shield, and DoT dome. Even her melee knockback can be pre-loaded for a few seconds and you can use it to create some pit deaths or positioning advantage.
 

Intrinsic

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Since I have played DotA for years it was real fun reliving the “everyone is an idiot but me” commentary. Brought back the feels.
 
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Penance

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Since I have played DotA for years it was real fun reliving the “everyone is an idiot but me” commentary. Brought back the feels.
True enlightenment is saying everyone on your team sucks including you but still raging out on your team.
 
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