Miniature Painting

Palum · Nov 11, 2023

bigmark268 said:
Had some time throw some paint on this mini I acquired View attachment 499990

If you want to try to make it more ice/gem like, do a bit of reverse value transition with extreme edge highlights, so you do a lot more with the base tone. Very similar to gemstones but with the hard edge it's a bit easier to block in the colors along the shape and do a white edge instead of reflection on the spherical shape.

bigmark268 · Nov 12, 2023

Palum said:
If you want to try to make it more ice/gem like, do a bit of reverse value transition with extreme edge highlights, so you do a lot more with the base tone. Very similar to gemstones but with the hard edge it's a bit easier to block in the colors along the shape and do a white edge instead of reflection on the spherical shape.

Those ice crystal lookin pieces only have a Bae coat on them so far. I didn't even get that far yet lol. I'm done with the boney bits though. I'm happy how those look. The sword I literally just wiped a brush off on it so far too lol

Chris · Nov 13, 2023

Dipping into modelling here but any advice for space marine chapter symbols?

Not sold on transfers but if there's a method to make your own it could work.

Mainly looking for a physical object to interact with the paint.

I found etched brass which is fairly cheap and UK based, but like transfers is only for existing chapters:

Brass

www.mallistone.com

I found some kind of plastic with lots of choice of existing and custom chapters, but has very expensive shipping:

60x Lambda Omega - Shoulder Insignia pack

This insignia pack is designed to fit on any shoulder or rounded area of your favorite models. (YES, they fit the new marines) They are meant to personalize your army by providing a raised emblem that makes painting easy and ensures a consistent and uniform appearance. As an added benefit, this...

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I guess I could freehand paint but I'm not confident with that, a stencil seems too unreliable?

So yeah... anyone have any experience with any of these 4 methods and painting under/over them?

Hateyou · Nov 13, 2023

Aren’t there some kind of water labels they make you can stick on shoulders and various areas? I’ve seen something like that in the past but never looked into them.

Palum · Nov 13, 2023

Chris said:
Dipping into modelling here but any advice for space marine chapter symbols?

Not sold on transfers but if there's a method to make your own it could work.

Mainly looking for a physical object to interact with the paint.

I found etched brass which is fairly cheap and UK based, but like transfers is only for existing chapters:

Brass

www.mallistone.com

I found some kind of plastic with lots of choice of existing and custom chapters, but has very expensive shipping:

60x Lambda Omega - Shoulder Insignia pack

This insignia pack is designed to fit on any shoulder or rounded area of your favorite models. (YES, they fit the new marines) They are meant to personalize your army by providing a raised emblem that makes painting easy and ensures a consistent and uniform appearance. As an added benefit, this...

popgoesthemonkey.com

I guess I could freehand paint but I'm not confident with that, a stencil seems too unreliable?

So yeah... anyone have any experience with any of these 4 methods and painting under/over them?

Brass is very finicky and making them attach to compound curves is terrible.

I prefer molded on or resin printed one piece pads. The problem with any printed or cast insignias is they do not work with plastic cement. It's kind of a pain to super glue fine detail into the right place. With regular plastic you can just use Tamiya ultra thin, position first and then wick it around the edges and it won't ruin the surface once you prime it. CA glue isn't that nice.

Transfers are the gold standard "easy and cheap" and look the nicest as "painted" effects, but you will want to get at least micro sol (I don't really use micro set much any more just regular water). There are also a few companies that print transfers well. Be careful about cheap shit on eBay, because most printers can't print white so you get dumb shit like having to trim around a skull on the black line exactly because it's just printed on white stock.

I've ordered from these folks many times

FALLOUT HOBBIES

Fallout Hobbies is the premiere war games hobby accessory company in the world. Products include proprietary vinyl airbrush stencils, water slide decals, LED kits, terrain, etc. Custom stencils, decals available in custom designs.

www.chaptercustomizer.com

Otherwise hit up shapeways or a buddy and buy packs of full pads.

Aazrael · Nov 13, 2023

Chris said:
Dipping into modelling here but any advice for space marine chapter symbols?

Not sold on transfers but if there's a method to make your own it could work.

Mainly looking for a physical object to interact with the paint.

I found etched brass which is fairly cheap and UK based, but like transfers is only for existing chapters:

Brass

www.mallistone.com

I found some kind of plastic with lots of choice of existing and custom chapters, but has very expensive shipping:

60x Lambda Omega - Shoulder Insignia pack

This insignia pack is designed to fit on any shoulder or rounded area of your favorite models. (YES, they fit the new marines) They are meant to personalize your army by providing a raised emblem that makes painting easy and ensures a consistent and uniform appearance. As an added benefit, this...

popgoesthemonkey.com

I guess I could freehand paint but I'm not confident with that, a stencil seems too unreliable?

So yeah... anyone have any experience with any of these 4 methods and painting under/over them?

I think theres a way to print your own waterslides but I doubt they will be of good quality. I know I saw something about that in a Gunpla group.

Palum · Nov 13, 2023

Aazrael said:
I think theres a way to print your own waterslides but I doubt they will be of good quality. I know I saw something about that in a Gunpla group.

They are not. You need a sublimation printer to do it well, just order them. Source: repeated attempts with laser and inkjet printables.

Aazrael · Nov 13, 2023

Palum said:
They are not. You need a sublimation printer to do it well, just order them. Source: repeated attempts with laser and inkjet printables.

Yea I always order some 3rd party Decals when I need something better than what comes with the model. I use Tamiyas Markfit and Markfit Strong for them, but Microsol/set works as well.

Kinda regret I did not order up some cockpit decals for the F14 I am building. I thought the kit came with them but all the video guides and reviews seems to have bought them as extra.

Chris · Nov 13, 2023

Great guys thanks, will look into custom transfers!

Edit: Seems promising, didn't realise custom transfers were possible. Found a guy on etsy who designs then for you.

Think I'll try brass first just because it's £8 so if it doesn't work it's not a big deal. That means I can paint it and use a different coloured Blood Ravens symbol:

Product Page | Mallistone Foundries

www.mallistone.com

Assuming Blood Ravens are popular enough people make things for them but not too popular that you see them all the time, so it'll be a semi unique symbol.

I keep watering down my initial concept for cost/availability reasons but I guess I'll post about that in the 40k thread.

Warr · Nov 13, 2023

I suck at freehand but I've had satisfactory results printing onto transfer decal paper designed for use with a laser printer. Then again, I'm easy to please.

Burren · Nov 13, 2023

Warr said:
I suck at freehand but I've had satisfactory results printing onto transfer decal paper designed for use with a laser printer. Then again, I'm easy to please.

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Shit, that transfer looks great.

Palum · Nov 13, 2023

Burren said:
Shit, that transfer looks great.

They print ok but at least in my experience the transfer film was very thick and of course no white.

Chris · Nov 15, 2023

Made a mockup of my colour scheme in impcat:

Brutal feedback please, need to get this planned right before I actually attempt to paint it. Tell me it looks like shit.

Don't think I want a full half and half design, so just did the altetnate arm/leg without the body. Helmet will be more coloured depending on rank.

Also want something different enough from other main chapters, so full bright colours like all blue is out too.

Palum · Nov 15, 2023

Chris said:
Made a mockup of my colour scheme in impcat:
View attachment 500552

Brutal feedback please, need to get this planned right before I actually attempt to paint it. Tell me it looks like shit.

Don't think I want a full half and half design, so just did the altetnate arm/leg without the body. Helmet will be more coloured depending on rank.

Also want something different enough from other main chapters, so full bright colours like all blue is out too.

I do not like random color limbs and shit. Helmets and shoulderpads different is fine.

Chris · Nov 15, 2023

Palum said:
I do not like random color limbs and shit. Helmets and shoulderpads different is fine.

Thanks.

I tried all silver other than helm/shoulder/knee and it was too much silver...

How do you feel about the full alternate quarters? Do you just like full solid colour?

Animosity · Nov 15, 2023

You can do something like the boots, gloves, shoulders and helm blue, the rest silver or something. But I agree the one arm and one leg looks weird.

Palum · Nov 15, 2023

Chris said:
Thanks.

I tried all silver other than helm/shoulder/knee and it was too much silver...

How do you feel about the full alternate quarters? Do you just like full solid colour?

It's a fucking nightmare to paint so that's just a no regardless, but even howling griffons are meh in my opinion.

I should add, markings and stuff like aquila or knee pads are all good places to add some contrast.

Chris · Nov 15, 2023

Thanks guys, good advice. I agree the one leg does look kinda random now, I'll try again based on your advice.

... · Nov 15, 2023

I like your color scheme and don't hate the colored limbs. Some chapters have odd coloration for specialists and unit types. Like blood angles have blue helmets on assault marines I think.

So you could, for example, give all your assault marines a blue arm. And an offset painted pauldron. And it would make that squad look sharp. Or a tek marine fully quartered, and you only have one or two in the army so it's not a pain.

Chris · Nov 15, 2023

OK I think this is much better:

Black backpack to match gun and symmetrical splash colour seems to help break up the solid silver.

Thanks again for the advice, keep it coming. Not gonna spam the thread with space marine mockups so won't post another for a while.

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